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They're not going ahead, man

Legionaire - a cutting edge take on the word Legionary and in reference to units in the French Foreign Legion or any other non-Roman Legion. 

Legionary - an officer in the Roman Legion. 

I was interested as well and google says: 

Isn't it Legionaire? 

The necklace really arranges the look 

Sorry romans, the italians have fashion on their side 

I like this sub however the enormous amount of wronf memes like this make me mad, about Italy in ww2 as well as France as well 

I don't get it. Wasn't Italy expected to be more awful than Rome? 

Doesn't that rely upon the timespan? 

Folks, folks, you're both totally right and totally off-base... Contingent upon when we are talking. Rome existed long enough for things to change drastically for their military and the meaning of citizenship and who was qualified. 

No, the legionaries were just roman residents (from the italian peninsula), the auxiliaries were from all over the domain 

Ross resembles a smashed Portuguese mobster. 

"Have you been babypowdering your leather pants like a real Italian trooper?" 

This is the same picture??! 

He was on a break, in fairness. 

First commander and instructur of Easy Company, ccc 

That's Herbert M. Sobel on the right. 

Sobel 

I don't care for this format. Ross looks amazing, so it doesn't work the way individuals continue utilizing it

Someone Photoshop Joey in as Italian warriors and make Ross his band of Brothers character 

I really can't hear any change in throttle 

Ahh indeed, I recall when I drove the Roman Empire, what a period. In any case, don't diminish those officers from the Second World War, they were an army of lions drove by sheep. 

Screwing Sobel 

I hate you, yet you are correct 😂😂 

Indeed 

Isn't this the exact same thing as Rome and Fascist Italy? That was made right now. 

Practically why religion of personality based fascism is bound to go down in a flaming ball of poop. 

The fighters did as well as could be expected. I cannot blame the generals all that much. They were undersupplied and Mussolini simply made it more awful 

It's one of the most noticeably terrible bits of propaganda from ww2 thats still around. Something like 23rds rommels power was Italian and there was a statement by montgomery, something like "the Italians, when given legitimate gear, performed equal or greater than their german counterparts". 

Rommel once said: The German soildier intrigues the world yet the Italian soildier dazzles the German. To bad they all have Corona now. 

Republican Legionary versus Dominate Legionary 

Latin realm? 

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 

He watches better out of them 

and glances damn great in them 

The Witcher wears mother jeans 

we were truly acceptable actually, the issue was our doltish leader

Goooold directly here. 

Pulling the laces of all the bikinis 

I read that as underwear saboteurs from the get go 

5 feet away because they're not gay 

Campioni at Calabria: "Is well disposed fire a joke to you?" 

different boats 

Royal Navy ships: sunk by two Italians in a jumping suit 

Regia Marina ships: sunk by different boats and aerial bombardment 

Their main issue was hardware, other than that Italian army was made up of gifted and brave troopers. Also, they had really great underwater saboteurs. 

Generally because of leadership, actually. 

You can discover a great deal of examples that demonstrate this... and yes italian warriors didn't do well in world war 2 however this was because of ther hardware.. 

You were destined for success until you said history is composed by the champs 

I like that Italians battle in Spanish common war yet at the same time the two sides hated them. Republicans squashed them and nationalists would not help them ( later they even beverage for republicans and said smth like "how about we drink for the Spanish heroism regardless of the shading") 

On the off chance that history is composed by the victors it really is great the champs of WW2 were the smartest individuals in the war and happened to care about accurately recording history. Retards today believing memes and propaganda over actual history have no reason, the actual history is there. 

Mussolini was stupid as Hell...but he was still more insightful than Hitler. 

Mussolini as imbecilic as he was literally said to Hitler that Italy was not ready for war yet. 

At least in Spain, the academia agreement on why Italy did so badly in WW2 is that they were totally exhausted after the Spanish Civil War and the African campaign to be of any assistance to the Germans. 

In contrast to the Soviet Union, Italy didn't improve a lot. 

Much like the Soviet Union, Italy was not ready for war when the war began. 

I will surrender that was not the best phrasing. 

Had to be nuked is maybe not the most apt portrayal. 

Which is the reason they to me, appear to be more similar to a tip top formation than typical infantry. 

From Wikipedia :"Over the first years the Army had resisted recommendations to weaken their quality, and enlisted people kept on being of above-average size and stamina, persevered through extraordinary physical training and had to qualify as marksmen." 

Subsequently the sounds like, we are also talking about ww2. 

They are light infantry. 210.000 bersaglieri battled in WW1, so not exactly special powers. 

I don't know utilizing Bersagliari as an example of the entire Italian army is fair. They sound like elitespecial powers. Bersaglieri Not here to poo all over Italian warriors, bad gear and bad leadership doesn't help, yet the Japanese didn't have parity with American fighters either and they had to be nuked, no exchanging sides there. 

It's articulated ᴉuᴉןossnɯ 

Mark_Clark_irl 

American checking in. Something about this sounds so familiar. 

Progressively like millions 

Simply had to cleanse countless officials and let many thousands more bite the dust at the hands of the Germans to arrive 

Stalin got skilled individuals eventually 

Stalin did as well and Hitler did that later on. After certain failures, he moved skilled individuals around and put uncouth yes men in charge. 

yeah, and mussolini is a retard and had the shittiest individuals placed in charge of the military 

In any case, history is composed by the victors so here we are 

You can discover a great deal of examples that demonstrate this... and yes italian officers didn't do well in world war 2 however this was because of ther hardware.. Italians troopers were one of the most brave harmy in ww2 

All things considered, let me report what Rommel said about italian fighters in ww2 "The german officer has dazzled the world, anyway the italian bersglieri has inpressed the German warrior" 

I thought he looked real great, however yeah his shirt was MASSIVE 

Abnormally enough, the joke of the episode was the manner by which wacky his pants were. Watching it back, his pants look fairly normal, yet the shirt 6 inches too large for him looks ludicrous. 

He simply needs the sides taken in on the shirt and he'd look better, instead of a balloon. 

Taking into account how the episode advances I don't think new is the best word. An alternative and even 90s appropriate term like...fly would be acceptable as well. 

Ros is looking truly crisp batter 

Obviously, some of them even hated Mussolini, because they've comprehended that they were sent to bite the dust, not to battle.

At that point it was unquestionably not their fault... (The troopers) 

They were extremely brave however in Russia they've been slaughtered because of bad tactics and supplies (they were sent to battle in cardboard shoes, much of the time breaking and fixed with wire). In case you're intrigued I recommend reading this book. 

Ah, I see that you are a man of culture as well 

Sucks to be in that position really however. 

IIRC the Byzantines and the Caliphate both cherished troopers from Armenia because of this and would battle for impact and allegiance there for quite a long time. 

Indeed clearly. They probably won't have great industrial potential however they make for fine warriors. Similar reasons were given by Romans to enlist more from the field than the urban areas. 

And in case you're capable of living in harsh conditions like are in the majority of Nepal or even the Alps, your mental health is probably also more grounded than that of your colleagues. Cause you need it to make due there. 

Appears it wasn't because they were acceptable at battling, yet more that they were in generally acceptable health, could live on not exactly the rest (needn't bother with great nourishment, just nourishment, needn't bother with entertainment, since you've been in a domain unreasonably occupied for that) and could probably discover paths and areas that otherwise would not be viewed as excessively viable. 

Genuine, yet at the same time intriguing that they were as yet successful fighters. 

Also I think the mountain nations were regularly unconquered because there wasn't much there anyway, as far as pre-industrial assets (farm lands, high population for enslavement, metals, and so on.). 

Tbf, the mountain troops of any nation were hardcore. Which is probably why the Nepalese warriors were so awesome 

And then leadership; fascist dictatorships put loyal fascists in charge, picked for loyalty, not because they were the best officials. 

Economically, Italy couldn't appropriately create the war material expected to supply and prepare an advanced army. Insufficient industrial base or cash. Insufficient artillery, insufficient armor, insufficient trucks. 

Mussolini was not universally popular and a ton of recruits would not like to overcome Greece or Ethiopia. So their motivation to battle is poor. 

That, and government and financial matters. 

And Decima Mas. 

It Is not about the single warrior. It's about the generals 

Folgore and Ariete... 

Alpines... 

Military upsets rarely end up with the abuse however 

Airplanes with cool painted on shark mouths 

Attach a minigun to your bike and have it constantly shooting so you can fly. 

A few weapons were great (M38), some were alright yet lacked the correct logistics (Carcano), some were simply... simply awful (Breda 30) 

And tanks. Remember that legendary L333 

Not too bad weapons maybe. Be that as it may, they don't drive as fast 

Be that as it may, they got bikes, what more might you be able to require 

Italian officers were actually rather skillful, however were kept down by bad logistics and gear or just the crappy state the Italian war industry was 

Probably better to say Generals, High command, Military, or Logistics instead of officers. 

Aside from maybe Iceland, yet they have the Mountain so it balances. 

Everybody from Iran to Macedonia to Spain to Turkey to Britain and many more have legacies of once great force and distinction. 

They're not so much so alone. 

Probably glad, since most different societies don't find a good pace such realms. 

Some of the time I wonder how Italians, Greeks and Egyptians must feel taking a gander at the ancient shell of those lost realms all around them. 

Ah! We even created totalitarianism kid 

I mean, you all also have a stand client mafia, that's something only one out of every odd nation can say. 

Yeah I'd say itvwas a long ass hiccup, from the 20s to the early 40s 

Glad that you enjoyed our 1920s and 1930s lmao 

Everything was great aside from that one little hiccup during the 1940s 

So..ok, roman realm was great and all, yet it's gone, i'm pleased that it's a part of my way of life's past, however that's it. 

Be nostalgic about an Empire of 2000 years ago, it's really silly, and Italy has been end up being a great culture also during the Middle-Age and the Renaissance, our literature and art has been great in the nineteenth and twentieth hundreds of years.. 

Our ancient ruines in Roma and different parts of Italy are reestablished, what do you mean? 

Have there ever been any endeavors to reestablish the Sphinx, the Coliseum or any other ancient remains? 

It must be a killjoy. 

Here and there I wonder how Italians, Greeks and Egyptians must feel taking a gander at the ancient shell of those lost realms all around them. 

Russian "go in with an ammo-less rifle and farm ammo off of dead comrades" 

On the off chance that they utilized the death vitality of the Holocaust to bring the Aesir? 

Germans could have won on the off chance that they haven't taken alsace-lorraine in the franco-prussian war, made an alliance of equals with the french, and become a mainland spanning powerblock with the ability to absolutely dab on all their neighbors. 

Something Finnish expert rifleman with 9999999999 slaughters 

Panther was first main battle tank best tank of war ever 

Something winter cold updoot to one side 

Germany could have won in the event that they embed image 

Russians Human wave attack... And starving 

Dutch G E K O L O N I S E R D 

Germans Blitzkrieg 

Frech give up hehehe 

Hehe switch side amirite? Enormous brain 

Roman Empire great Italy bad 

Gracious, kid - here I go watching it again. 

Single best smaller than normal arrangement at any point made. Probably the best demonstration of any sort at any point made. 

Adored that film to death 

He vindicated himself by helpin popeye return to Easy company, and let malarkey slide with the bike... Presently I gotta watch it. 

3 miles up; 3 miles down! 

Howdy YO, SILVER 

Absolutely. While stuck at home, a Band of Brothers rewatch appears to be unavoidable. 

Hell of a line, correct? 

We salute the rank, not the man. 

Umm that's American WW2 Captain Herbert Sobel on the in that spot. 

truly, italian culture is actually pasta driven and this is a saying 

I believe you're taking it a piece too literally. Strauss-Howe is itself scrutinized as being excessively reductionist, as you noted. Nonetheless, blast and bust cycles absolutely are a natural part of any general public with relative periodicity, Strauss-Howe simply hand-waves it at being about a 80 year long cycle. You're alluding to society at an increasingly macro scale, in which case indeed, clearly we're in an ideal situation than those that lived in past "cycles" because of progress in infrastructure, proficiency, information in many structures, and so on. 

This thing continues existing because "hard" and "delicate" are totally abstract and relative, and can be moved around to fit whatever argument you're attempting to make on the off chance that you want to trust it sufficiently hard. 

It's the "delicate" individuals who live in prolific, asset rich, easily-navigable areas that manufacture lasting social orders. See: Egypt, Mesopotamia, Persia, Italy, eastern China, Indus Valley, Central Mesoamerica. The decadent bottomlanders will leave behind walls, ships, smithies, granaries, galleries, sanctuaries, diplomatic systems, an income generating bureaucratic apparatus, and a standing military power for their children, who can utilize all that to additionally expand or improve their citykingdomempirestate and keep those troublesome slope individuals at bay. Who usually dominates in strategy matches, the player, with their ever-improving urban communities, or the ephemeral radicals and barbarians that leap out of the forested areas? 

It's an awful pop-history hypothesis. Hard occasions usually sire hard screwing occasions. Hard occasions create wiped out, brief individuals who burn through a large portion of their effort attempting to endure and not innovating, developing, farming, training, healing, battling, creating, dancing, singing, or whatever else we anticipate that a general public should do. In the event that you are, to paraphrase Saruman, crashed into the slopes to scratch a living off rocks, you're probably going to have a real hard time generating income, developing a nourishment overflow, training a professional army, creating innovation, creating art, and so on to make life better for your offspring.

Back to 1. 

Those delicate individuals create hard occasions 

Those easier occasions create delicate (incompetentpoorly-prepared) individuals 

Those hard individuals create easier occasions 

Hard occasions, creating hard (competentwell-prepared) individuals 

It's Strauss-Howe generational hypothesis. An exceptionally decreased type of the arrangement of four generations: 

- Augustus Pompey, greatest cook ever 

Easiest sauces are the best ones. 

In fact. 

Well that looks at 

Hard men create basic sauce. 

Simply switch pasta with men. 

It's a memed rendition of a progressively famous saying. 

Not pastacentric? Wow you know nothing about Italian culture. 

I won't accept this 

no, italian culture is not actually pasta driven and this is not a saying 

Is this an actual saying? What do 'hard' and 'delicate' pasta mean right now? 

SI. 

Grano duro al dente, fuckers. 

Delicate pasta creates hard occasions 

Straightforward sauce creates delicate pasta 

Hard pasta creates straightforward sauce 

Hard occasions creates hard pasta 

Smh imagine run in a marathon 

I get it relies upon how you characterize "professional" 

The Spartan military wasn't professional, the Assyrians had a professional army. 

Anyway Scots, Welsh, and so on are all Celtish. It's somewhat complicated considering it, in the event that we pass by first language they would be Germanic, since most speak English (even in Ireland Irish is just spoken by a small minority. My ex was Irish so I used to ask her about that sort of stuff a ton since roadsigns and similiar are always in Irish). 

In the event that you mean the English, yes they are Germanic. I think what confounds you is the term Anglo - Anglo-Saxon is a word that depicts the English populace because they are a blend of Angles, Jutes and Saxons, all west Germanic clans that invaded the British Isles following the demis of the Roman Empire. 

Alter: I see you simply altered your post. With regards to Indo-Europeans, yes our language and native pagan religions are gotten from them. Anyway that is so far back in time that you can't compare them to proto-Germanicsproto-Slavs or different successors of the Indo-Europeans, which had their own extraordinary culture from each other and, all the more importantly, languages that are totally not the same as each other. While related they were totally confused 

Indeed, during the era of German Nationalism he was viewed as an image, however as an image of the German battle against the French occupiers, similar to the Germanic clans that battled against the Roman occupiers. 

As much as I'm grateful for what he did - pushing the Roman Empire to the edge of total collapse and adding to its eventual fall, in this manner protecting Germanic and Slavic languages (perhaps), he never imparted the idea of a Germanic, considerably less a German nation. 

Hermann wanted Germania to be liberated from Roman impact, not at all like, say Gaul. That's the reason he met with other tribal leaders to frame a temporary alliance, yet after they beat the Romans and Hermann was delegated lord of the confederation they just lynched him. 

As much as I'd prefer to agree with you - that's simply false. Arminius (or Hermann, thats his name in the Germanic languages) lead a tribal alliance. The Germanic clans were constantly battling each other for slaves and plunder and so forth and so on and the Romans planned to keep it that way, as a brought together Germania would present a significant threat to them. They actually did quickly involve a large part of western Germania (generally center and northern Germany nowadays) yet it simply wasn't feasible - not a ton of cash could be made, they didn't enroll any warriors or mercenaries and the native populace ascended against them, which was caused by how the Romans treated them. 

or then again to indogermanics who made the base language and folklore, germans didn't squint into existence in the medieval times 

you can go way increasingly back prefer to arminius who right away yet productively brought together a lot of west germanic clans and made sure germany became germany and not france 

Germans are Germanic however just created as a nationality during the Holy Roman Empire. Anyway that wasn't really the German we know today, all continental Germanics (Low Germans, High Germans (actually no, not the Dutch), the Dutch and the Frisians) were viewed as the same "gathering" you could say, all being nominally controlled by one King (the King of Germans, the Kingdom of Germany was a part of the HRE and is pretty much Eastern Francia). German technically isnt the right name for them: It's rather in German Deutsch, in Dutch Diets. Gotten from Germanic "þiudiskaz" - of the individuals, with "þeudā" meaning individuals. A genuine German personality the way its known now just framed after the German unification - anyway the original portrayal of "Deutsch" doesn't really fit anymore since it doesn't encompass all continental Germanics (missing the Dutch, clearly). And that is the reason Dutch allude to their nation as "Nederlands" - Low Countries. 

Gracious pal dont trigger my trap card 

are you saying germans are not germanic? 

Not in any event, referencing Germans didnt even exist back at that point, you mean the Germanic clans? 

The Huns? How? 

I'd say they were broken by the sacred band of the theban league. Sparta had their own league, and their own allies, yet when it came to professional militaries battling eachother, tactics and weight won out 

Sparta went out by not allowing vanquished gatherings to become Spartans, so ran out of Spartans to serve in the army. 

YOU'RE THE SADDEST BUNCH I'VE EVER MET 

By one way or another IIIIII'LL, MAKE A MAN, OUT OF YOOOOOOOOOU 

YOU'RE A SPINELESS, PALE, PATHETIC LOT, AND YOU HAVEN'T GOT A CLUE 

TRANQUIL AS A FOREST, BUT ON FIRE, WITHIN. Regard MY EVERY ORDER, AND YOURE SUUUURE, TO WIIIIIIIN 

MISTER I'LL, MAKE A MAN, OUT OF YOUUUUUUUU 

YOUR THE SADDEST BUNCH I EVER MET BUT YOU CAN BET BEFORE WE'RE THROUGH 

DID THEY SEND ME DAUGHTERS, WHEN I ASKED FOR SONS? 

TO DEFEAT THE HUNS 

Did someone say Huns? inhale LET'S GET DOWN TO BUSINESS 

That's our kid Otto. 

The Romans ? 

OCD af 

I wager jew did however 

I wager they did nazi that coming 

Screwing Romaboo, that one. 

The Legions hadn't been Italian-majority a long time before Germans, yet yes many Germans became Roman residents and full legionnaires as well. A large portion of Western Roman Empire today plunges from a blend of Latins and Germans in places from England to France to Austria. 

They weren't simply mercenaries. As the realm expanded its inhabitants were a mixture of ethnicities. Fewer and fewer Romans and individuals of Italian plunge were joining the armies, which is the reason Germans made up the backbone of the Roman armies during when of the crisis of the third century and onwards. 

I mean, that's Romans. The invading Germanic clans were enormous romanophiles and many of them functioned as mercenaries alongside and even in Roman armies towards the finish of the Western part of the Roman Empire. Try not to try and kick me off on screwing Charlemagne 

It's fascinating that Germans were once eminent for being barbarians and a couple thousands of years later, presently famous for having one of the most professional military on the planet. They despite everything have one of the most all around organized militaries on the planet. 

(The Holy Roman Empire wasn't really joined together, except if you deny the benefit). 

Germany as a unified nation is more youthful than professional baseball. 

Iirc the reason Germany has so many vastly various names in various languages is because the locale was loaded up with many diferente clans before they eventually United. 

Guten abend...

Hallo 

[Handlebar mustache intensifies] 

Otto Von Bismarck has joined the chat 

until it tumbled down 

To be fair, the wall was organized really well. 

Actually it was the East Germans. 

Almost certain the Russians made that. 

advise that to the berlin wall 

Laughs in fragmented HRE. 

Organized disorder! Take a gander at how much monies a few people made structure that 

That part appears to be incredibly German 

After almost 15 years of planning, development began in 2006 

Until they attempted to assemble an airport in their capital. 

You folks are all overlooking the master salute ; quick assault 

All things considered, Guten Panzerkampfwagen doesn't move off the tongue that easily 

You mean Guten Panzer 

Traditional germans salute with guten tag, hardcore germans salute with Guten Tank 

Ah indeed, the traditional German phrase for "Hello" 

Hans, hol meinen Flammenwerfer und Schnitzel! 

Ve Vill Never Be Disorganized... Until the end of time 

It took some time for the Germans to get organized, yet once they did.... 

Imagine the individuals that acquainted the Germans with organization 

Dan Carlin gives some great information in "Thor's Angels", yet he's not a historian nor am I. 

Long story short the roman army potentially lost because their armies were recruited, inadequately trained, ineffectively paid, against adversaries who knew how they battled, alongside unreliable mercenaries in region which could change hands at any minute. 

"Nationhood" didn't really exist, yet the clans got into some truly extraordinary sizes. A casual wiki says the Vandals may have had 20,000 battling men as part of their unexpected. The huns, maybe 30,000. This was a far cry from the 70,000 romans who had passed on, apparently uneventfully, at the battle of cannae two or three hundred years ago. The Roman army at the hour of the third century... I don't know. Not a ton of records around because of that barbarian invasion thing. Wiki says maybe over a hundred thousand troopers, in addition to that again in foederati. Be that as it may, a large portion of these were kept in the heartland to guard individuals of importance, and those in the boondocks were scattered among various outskirt fortifications in domain which was gradually surrendered to tribal rulers as an end-result of concessions. 

The germanics learned tactics and strategy from the Romans. Is it safe to say that they were professional (standing army) warriors? Rarely if at any time. The individuals who served in the Roman military would come back to battle the romans once in a while, yet as a tribal army. They would gather when the nourishment was ample, attempt a decisive battle, and then come back to their families. 

Alter: I want to make some speedy clarifications because this remark gained a great deal of traction and I don't want this image taken as gospel. 

At that point the Huns acquainted the Germans with a nationalized military and gg 

I think it just required some investment for different nations to cotton on to the idea of a professional military. Same way Sparta went out. 

They spent all their martial ability early by vanquishing the Mediterranean for a thousand years. Italy did a dash and then all the joggers caught up. 

Say hi to my bubonic plague 

The Trail of Beer-aids 

fragilewhiteredditor 

You mean that European individuals didn't cause massive outbrakes of diseases among Native Americans? 

In the event that actual historical facts in memes insult you, at that point maybe you were the snowflake all along 

I'm white man. I'm not bashing whites. 

Who's asking to enter know lol 

MEXICO PAID FOR THE WALL. 

THE MADMAN DID IT. 

HE DID IT. 

Mexico planning on blocking Americans at the fringe 

At the point when you take somebody's joke and say it stronger 

Until: Azincourt is Agincourt in english 

Please further explain... 

They didn't ban immigration simply travel 

Decent 

Fuckin quality substance 

titletoimagebot 

nahuatl 

banned travel because we didn't want em coming here to overpower our medical sysrem. 

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still better than never 

It would appear that I've already reacted right now! 

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In any case, it's not deadly 

That's right.. on the off chance that it was on Jack's organization. 

sorry man, are the occasions for spread the dissemination after the "industrial era", I didn't compose the universe; and first we need "the industrial era" for this - The Universe (1400 approximately) 

Ow watch out watch out Whatch Out oooow In-Fected! Suddenly! 

This upheaval can't stop cause I can't read 

Gracious simply get over it already 

north america was aztecan diaspora, when aztecs tumbled to spanish domain that changed them and made them weaker, the real revile of northern dark colored and non darker wasnt infection however liquor and what they sold eastcoast to europeans who bring their africans for 

What about the fall of the berlin wall? 

Yeah we can go to my party 

I Saw somebody saying this was cultural appropiation, so theres that. Strangest poo ive read on a history sub lmao. 

It would appear that I've already reacted right now! 

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"I don't have confidence in heaven 🧐 

bans are just as compelling as the work force upholding them 

They don't have confidence in heaven 🧐 

Preferred late over not in the least. 

I don't have the foggiest idea why yet this helps me to remember this Creator made an animal: SNRK 

And Germany gathers illegal immigrants like General Grievous lightsabers 

woah saw aztec in starterpacks after reading this 

F for Motecuhzoma, Cuauhtémoc and all the native Americans that were slaughtered :( 

Simply finished learning about the Spanish Conquest... 

No, it's off by a long shot. "He is culturally appropriating, however" would be right. Replacing "is" with "be" is a typical type of slang, so "He be culturally appropriating" is something you may hear 

Not in the scarcest, it's an image 

Is this grammatically right? (Not a native speaker) 

Nah, I'm simply kidding, I don't figure anyone would be outraged by this 

I apologize for the headress however it was the easiest way to pass on his situation inside the image without having 'Native American' composed across his forehead. 

he do be culturally appropriating doe 😳😳😳 

native pal 

Denmark created the main nordic cross flag 

It would appear that I've already reacted right now! 

Title2ImageBot 

What have I done?! 

Fuckin mods were asleep is probably right 

I don't know man I think found an escape clause. Or on the other hand the mods were resting. 

Isn't this a standard breaker image? I like it yet isn't it excessively new? 

Tempest West Berlin, they can't stop all of us 

What's the setting of this statement? 

"I have dreamed a dream, and my soul was pained to know the dream." 

Not again this crap 

Star tip your ancestors ought to have had firearms. 

I appreciate your comical inclination and I'm glad I could give you a laugh. 

As a Native American at present despite everything being screwed by the US Government and stuck on the Rez - I laughed uncontrollably at this image. 

Elizabeth Warren? 

Thank God the Greeks shut down their outskirts. 

Top quality image 

IncrediblesMemes 

This may unbiasedly be the best one I've at any point found right now

Not exactly, the Navaho were allowed to stay because their land sucked. 

I imagine that is valid as a general principle, however it relies upon your meaning of extermination. A clan that gave up and gave up to European guideline probably won't be slaughtered off in physical clash, however they would be similarly as completely erased through assimilation. On the off chance that you haven't read Empire of the Summer Moon I would energetically suggest it. 

I was taught the ones that battled the hardest got the most land at last, and the ones that didn't battle at all were all however exterminated. Such a brutal history. 

They stayed the course. 

I mean they tried. 

At least they didn't offer smallpox blankets deliberately to the Natives. 

Yeah, those Spaniards really screwed it all up by spreading disease like that 

The corona infection is not a pandemic yet the media is treating it as is it. It's an infection, so treatments and fixes can just go up until now. The best would be for everybody to practice regular cleanliness and wait for this hysteria to blow over. The media just notices the deaths, when there have been far more who have recouped from this infection 

Nah, nah, you heard him. He speaks for all us weapon proprietors! (I don't get it either) 

It's the reason short barreled rifles have a 200 dollar tax stamp and pistols have nothing of the sort 

Weapon control is based on motion pictures and other popular media. 

Huh? 

Each weapon proprietor: no poo Sherlock 

Ya yet then you have Boris going out and saying his ideal right now the Mayor from Jaws. He appears to have taken an altogether different exercise from that film than all of us. 

I heard about the regular influenza thing many years ago, yet it is always planned for. For something that regularly happens once a year, they are probably more at risk of influenza than different things because of its spread. 

Statement from late coronavirus site. 

"The Ministry of Defense has set up plans to guarantee the conveyance of its key operations in the UK and overseas. There are also all around practiced arrangements for Defense to offer help to Civil Authorities whenever mentioned." 

Good health! Glad to have somebody who might be listening doing the research :) 

They would prefer not to start a panic, a reliable source revealed to me that the Ministry of Defense in the UK are always generally stressed over regular influenza. In the event that the entire nation is sick for about fourteen days they could harm industry and the old and youthful will be more at risk. 

COVID-19 is simply not deadly enough, on the off chance that it was something like anthrax or smallpox, the vast majority of the world would have already had martial law in place. 

It's crazy there aren't many authoritative measures in place for a pandemic. Almost as if governments also judge things by the news. 

As a full blooded Navajo all I can say is It do be that way. 

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This is actually entirely cool. What does it have to do with the remark however? 

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Plagiarizing off of the original music video. 

It was mid-tune, so it had to've started before the quake. 

That's a dark DJ 

Bravo forever's little incongruities. 

Years ago in Los Angeles as soon as the structure quit moving from an earthquake, I turned on the radio, and "I Shook You All Night Long" was playing. 

Unpleasant thing that happened: I was listening to music and as I looked to this post the verses were "You're past the point of no return! No doubt about it!" 

And then the communists dominated and resembled "yeah, screw the Republic. And also basically everyone, except especially the Manchu." 

At that point when the common war happened the Republic resembled "yeah, screw the Manchu." 

The Qing torched a large portion of Beijing not long after they took over so as to compel the native Han population out. 

They were truly acceptable at it back in the day. 

hello, there is nothing amiss with concentration camps and apartheid implemented by paramilitary corporate soldiers. It really is a communist utopia. 

human rights. 

You are disturbed my man, no reason to be. Except if you tally your nation's blatant disregard for human rights. Gracious yeah and that global health crisis thing because you eat unwashed bats apparently. 

Cry on, ccp degenerate. 

It wasn't similar because it didn't cross the seas, however IDK if Southeast asians would agree 

Advise that to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Macau. 

Was 

Tru 

Lol all the salty Europeans and Chinese downvoting you. 

Who says you aren't in any case barbarians? 

China has been imperial since Europeans were barbarians 

On the off chance that the politburo itself weren't a male gerontocracy, they would have allowed it to tear (assuming they didn't build it in any case) 

China has a tremendous old individual issue in their population pyramid. 

Alert the sewer guards! There's rat-catching to be finished! 

Presently I consider it, Covid-19 could be a Clan Pestilens plot.... 

On the off chance that you ever wind up getting a charge out of something Warhammer-related, you'd be a classic Skaven. randomnerdytalk 

Playing Age of Empires I realized that while having men attacking a wall or building and then having catapults join there would be casualties yet you gotta break two or three eggs to make an omelet. 

Except if you've calculated the loss of a portion of your population into the move. 

A flawed plan, if the infection is similarly prone to execute your own population. In addition, Corona ain't nothing to the smallpox ca. 16-eighteenth century 

He's a decent bot! Truly he is! 

Medication history and criminal equity are both immense interests of mine, so I figured I'd toll in. 

The fake pills are usually made by requesting fentanyl from China, at that point utilizing a pill press and restricting agents to create an item that seems as though pharmaceuticals, however is actually just fentanyl and god realizes what. The fentanyl utilized in those typically originates from China, however the pills themselves are regularly moved north from mexico. Canada has had similar issues with Chinese fentanyl as well. 

He's off-base about one nuance, however generally right overall, however unnecessarily aggressive. One unobtrusively not addressed in the DEA source is the contrast between fake ("squeezed") pills and powder fentanyl, which is somewhat annoying as they fill various needs and markets. Powder fent is typically requested through the darknet in mass, at that point used to either cut heroin, or is sold as "China white" (an oldformer acquaintance of mine was one of the greatest fent dealers in the US for a period. He's presently serving life, however the news stories and declarations of his codefendants sort of revealed the internal functions of his operation, and other larger ones through him). Chinese fentanyl is still especially a major issue (when you hear things like "gray death", it is typically alluding to chinese fent that is being sold as heroin). 

Thanks for the data great read. 

You're so fantastically inept and brainwashed, you literally make completely insane and totally disqualifying statements as "you don't have to pay for labor." It's one thing to not think about something increasingly darken like illegal medication supply chains, I expect redditors to talk out of their ass. Be that as it may, you are next level idiotic. In case you're a day more seasoned than 13, you ought to apply for disability benefits because you're clearly mentally disabled. 

What's a source you would trust? The US's DEA? Alright, read this. Assuming you can read, which is questionable. 

You literally don't have the foggiest idea what you're talking about. The fent on the road is NOT from the same stock chains as the pharmaceutical stuff. China is NOT the largest maker of illegal fent. Illegal fent is NOT legal to deliver or gangs in China. and endlessly and on. Nothing you said is accurate. Nothing. Not a certain something. 

A, you were only a troll, senseless me, I took the bait.

It's not hard to understand when your IQ isn't best compared to room temperature on a winter's day in Siberia. Street pharmacists in the US are requesting the items from individuals and criminal gangs operating abroad, remembering for China. China isn't the main maker nor the greatest maker, that would be Mexico. The reason why China is a main source is because the item is better value. That's the manner by which any business operates, illegal or not. On the off chance that you can get the same exact thing for one place at a much lower value, that's the place you get it. Again, not complicated. A kid could understand this. However, it's clearly 3 stages above the paygrade for average redditors in 2020. Perhaps there's a reason why brainwashed instruments like you immediately consider China when this comes up and not for example Mexico. I wonder what that reason is? Might it be able to be that all that you ponder the world and others is coddled to you through a handful of media sources? All you can do is parrot back the bs that gets siphoned in. I can literally trace back the genesis of redditors exceptionally "original" ideas to their sources in the media. That's the manner by which predictable your shithole's horse crap pipeline has become. 

Wrong again. This stuff is 100% unlawful. The whole store network is illegal. The amount of legally created fent which is occupied into the unlawful market is marginal and happens for the most part on the patient side. Meaning, individuals who have genuine solutions who redirect their legally acquired supplies. That is an a lot smaller issue than the massive unlawful inventory chains. The legally created stuff utilizes something many refer to as a "chain of care." That means if a kg of raw fent were to "disappear" the pharmaceutical company would think about it and investigate. They could track exactly when and where it happened. 

It's occupied from genuine supplies into the market. 

The US already had a medication issue. The US expends a bigger number of medications than the remainder of the world joined. That's a fact, not at all like the rubbish you're regurgitating. And that's not another or ongoing improvement either. It's been similar to that for a considerable length of time. 

Giving America a medication issue 

Second, the majority of unlawfully created fent originates from where? Do you know? Obviously you don't. It originates from Mexico. According to who? According to the DEA. Facts matter, nitwit. 

There's nothing legal about it. At the point when these individuals are caught they are condemned harshly. In China. 

the legal manufacture and sale of Chinese made fent to the US 

Indistinguishable babble of an illiterate oxygen waster. Each and every statement you made is factually off base. You basically keep out doing your self with dynamically progressively off base statements as the post goes on. 

Lol, def cheapest cost, however that's easy when you don't have to pay for labor. Probably not the best item. 

Because they have the best item and at the cheapest cost. 

Hospitals and vets generally. It's occupied from genuine supplies into the market. In any case, it's not about who made the request. The idea Chinese government or Chinese corporations apply strain to American hospitals and specialists to endorse more fentanyl. 

Second, who is placing in these requests for fent? Or then again is "China" so charitable they're sending a great many dollars of an "item" for nothing? No. You bonehead. Somebody, a street pharmacist on the American side, is placing in orders for the stuff. 

Do you know what the Opium Wars were? The British East India Company was doing the Opium selling with the approval of the sovereign, so it was just illegal in China. And I think what they are actually alluding to is the legal manufacture and sale of Chinese made fent to the US. The total being to make cash, yet in addition weaken America by giving us a medication issue. 

When you say "'China' shipping fent." Who is China? The substances dispatching the stuff are individual individuals or criminal gangs, breaking laws both in their own nation and international laws. 

Let it all out. Posting in Seussean section is a long tradition on the Interweb. 

Presently I'm simply imaging a Seuss styled handrawn cartoon, How The British Stole Hong Kong 

how the british took hong kong. 

Well we could be accomplishing more in Ohio yet the main individuals who appear to care maxed continuously to day tasks of life. When you find a workable pace you can help other people it's hard to get coordinate with the idea of how might I help myself or the others I care about? 

Is it harder, or are individuals simply being indenial? 

Truly there absolutely is. 

Truly there is. What on the off chance that something happened, at that point it happened. Trump kicks the bucket tomorrow at that point that's a goal fact. How it's deciphered and spun is what's extraordinary and what you're alluding to 

There's nothing of the sort as target history. 

It's progressively accurate to say a great many people don't know target history. Individuals use history to create narratives through which they decipher the world and it's not simply Americans who do this 

I think all AP world history classes spread the Boxer Rebellion and the Opium while going over Western imperialism, albeit mine was 3 pages in my reading material tops. 

No mystery, yet I don't have the foggiest idea what passes for history classes nowadays. 

That's right. No mystery. Be that as it may, snice these are present day times it's harder to see the chess pieces move. 

That's what the British did to control China in the nineteenth Century. 

All things considered, in case you're a fiendishness gov and you can snare another's on something for $, is there any valid reason why you wouldn't? 

I've thought about whether China shipping vast amounts of Fentanyl is payback for the Opium Wars. 

Maybe china is simply trying this colonial imperialism stuff somewhat later than europe start with the disease end with a common war and claim Barbados because screw you 

Indigenous individuals at one with nature, what's that coming over the slope is it a beast, ahem we come in peace, a bit of this and a bit of that 

I love the way they've utilized Syndrome's face . The dark eye mask gives the final pinch of tribal men face. 

"We love you MegaMeatloaf!" 

Incredibles and Megamind? Enjoying you increasingly here 

Screw bacteria 

Maybe you can't. 

Psst. Something like 90% of the human body has some reliance on bacteria to work. We don't want it gone. Tho it isn't cognizant in general so you can't be narrow-minded towards it. 

Less a dogwhistle, all the more a trumpet 

Well yeah, consitering that bacteria makes up in excess of 50% of all human deaths ever regardless of making up zero percent of the human population. 

When we're already talking about the grandma's? 

For what reason are we talking about Bacteria abruptly? 

wait, thats kinda racism against bacteria! your saying bacteria dont have the right to live?!?!? thats mean man 

So does the Coronavirus of the woman hacking beside you ! We love her also as long as she's 15 ft away. 

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And I love you random resident. 

Pleasant love it 

When everybody is a minority, nobody is a minority 

early reports were that it was racist against han chinese because they have a higher articulation of the protein expected to enter the cells of the respiratory tract...but Italy came through with the spoiler. 

Has the greatest telephone call ever. The main agreement that arises? This gathering could have been an email. 

That's a great deal of supervisors 

I mean clearly he's not working for each Native American, with the goal that's somewhat pedantic 

I work for the 19 pueblos. 

I work for the Native Americans and they are scared. 

"It's just $3000 for the entire seat in the line to get tried, yet you white young men and young ladies are just gonna need the edge." 

in the event that you endure the outbreak. 

Eh, it's an instrument of retribution. He's deriding Mr. Fantastic more than he's sincerely portraying the droid. 

It is extremely unlikely he could have beaten it in the finally without his family 

Happy Cake Day 

In a trap Syndrome set. Except if it fixed that fact gathering room with a drop away wall itself. 

That's probably part of what made it incredible. It realized when to strike and how to catch him inattentive.

Europeans were are soiled af 

Dang it's been quite a while since I've seen it. From what I recall, truly, he was slaughtering superheroes individually, yet the endgame of that was always to have the ideal thing to use against mr unfathomable. At that point came the part about making everybody super. 

His planned might've changed once he discovered his nemesis, yet I think Syndrome was going for a mass annihilation sort of thing primarily 

In any case, wasn't he tracking Frozone at the outset? And coincidentally found Mr. Mind blowing along the way? 

Ultimately, what mattered to him was seeking retribution against Mr Incredible, not disposing of superheroes. 

It needs a symbol, aaa 

It has been made real 

It is presently birthofasub 

I mean you could always make it. Simply make me a moderator for giving the idea. 

Me also kid, me as well. 

I wanted that to be real. 

incredibleslore is leaking 

Indeed at the same time, he required that to happen because he required a robot that the military couldn't harm, AND, when they failed, the legends would clearly hop in to help, so he expected to make sure it was unbeatable for them as well. 

All because he had to play saint himself. 

What I discovered clever is that Syndrome caused his own concern. The superheroes were all yet done thanks to the administration actions. Indeed, even Mr. Staggering was almost unable to keep practicing being a legend at all before Syndrome "employed" him, at that point gave the open the main reason to want to keep saints around. 

It despite everything surprised him in the rainforest. Disorder wasn't ever going for a fair battle 

He was given an instructions for the first and embedded into the omnidroid's last location 

So did the first and he despite everything beat it. 

I always thought that it was clever disorder declared that form of the omnidroid too ground-breaking for mr fantastic when all it did was catch him by surprise 

Natives: *seeing coronavirus spread* It's greater. It's badder. Ladies and noble men, it's a lot for the Europeans! 

Sounds like we need a bar graph for each time they sucked versus each time they didn't. Because I just recollect a couple of times they didn't 

"Random person" I think you mean the majority of children. 

I don't recollect seeing memes about the Eighth Crusade however okay... 

Does that say something bad about the Germans or VERY great about the French? 

And yet they despite everything managed to win several battles even while wearing red pants, blue coats and whitered caps. 

In the event that you wanna make enjoyment of them for anything, make enjoyment of them for wearing "shoot me" blue while charging MGs in WWI 

Each time somebody says "Haha french coward" I say 

Have you ever heard of goddamn Napoleon Bonaparte? 

France was feared as the great force on mainland Europe, which lead to its demise, IMO. Prussia and Austria wanted that title from France. And being adversaries with everbody is bad, especially when you have uncompentent leaders on the position of authority, similar to the last Capet (amusing, Capet took France from the last karling, and Napoleon took France from the last Capet) 

Any eu4 player will reveal to you that France was way solid 

WAS 

Skateboarding is not a crime.... 

Great at war, doesn't mean that you set up a mean battle, the French always do. In any case, that you win, especially if in a more grounded power. 

The Best thing I can say is that France for a very long time has been sorta like the team that always makes the Championship game - and loses. Or on the other hand they make it into the play offs, and they lose, yet another person comes in and beats who beat them. They aren't the most exceedingly awful, they are among the more impressive always - however "great at war?" maybe... Generally not great at it however. 

Did they battle viably at times? Gracious truly, most European forces can make that claim. 

One key point. At last, Napoleon lost. The tactics and battle strategies were fantastic. The larger political realities of not consolidating force and, yes attacking Russia, wasn't great. Less a military issue, yet not "great at war". 

Are we returning to Napoleon? 

Algeria or French Indochina (Viet nam)? Yeah not all that good. 

WW2 actually no, not great. 

WW1 not so much that great for anyone. 

Franco-Prussian War not all that good. 

ehhh... relies upon the timespan. 

This is BS, an actual historian goes-depends. 

Oui baguette eiffel tower give up 

I was hanging out with companions several evenings ago and someone raised a white flag and a barrage of "FRANCE BAD AT WAR" remarks came about and I was near disclosing to them that France was very acceptable at war and were incredibly useful during the upset yet I hate "akshully" individuals so I refrained and just laughed. 

They didn't find a workable pace rival by being pussies 

My child worked with French special powers operators in Afghanistan. He has only regard for them. Also, without the French, there would be no USA. So there is that. 

My concern is more with how all the memes are war memes. The shittiest part of history. 

In WW1, they were caught totally zoned out and had to utilize the taxis from Paris to get the troopers to the front as fast as conceivable. They had to utilize a quite creative arrangements in next to no time. 

So going "Hurr durr they're give up monkeys" isn't exactly accurate. 

Yet, in reality, they were truly smart in both. They simply weren't initially prepared in both...it cost them more in the second war than the first. Plus, it wouldn't have profited them to proceed in WW2 other than making the occupation harsher. 

France gets a ton of crap for WW2 (and the early stages of WW1). 

Algerian War: Same. 

Indochina War: Hard to tell, yet defeat anyway. 

Second World War: Imcompetent France, articulate defeat(, however eventual triumph) 

The Great War: Competent(?) France, triumph. 

Franco-Prussian War: Imcompetent France, defeat. 

Sardinian-French-Austrian War: Competent France, triumph. 

Crimean War: Competent France, triumph. 

Napoleonic Wars: Competent France, large triumphs, yet eventual defeat. 

French Revolutionary Wars: Competent France, large triumphs. 

Seven Years' War: Imcompetent France, complete defeat. 

War of the Austrian Succession: Competent France, military triumph. 

War of the Polish Succession: Competent France, however military stalemate. 

War of the Quadruple Alliance: Too little action to decide. 

War of the Spanish Succession: Competent France, although they lost. 

Starting from eighteenth century: 

The whole napoleon thing is crazy to me. France just experienced a wicked unrest, a peasant uprising. And then by one way or another that peasant army proceeded to dominate all of europe. It took basically every nation in europe joined three attempts to finally beat them. 

Algeria, Vietnam and many different nations want to know your location lol 

Surprising how much arguing there is right now.. It basically demonstrates the même from OP was correct. 

Ils ne passaront pas! 

Individuals love raising their unavoidable give up in ww2 and the defeat at Waterloo. Napoleon was one of the most vanquishing military personalities to exist. Frances navy put fear into adversary nations for an irrational amount of time. 

Historymemes: hehe, the French flag is white 

Rudyard Kipling: The French don't have a clue when that hour will come; they only from time to time speak of it; they don't amuse themselves with dreams of triumphs or terms. Their business is war, and they do their business. 

... It is unfortunate however that from 1814-1830 they literally flew a white flag. 

Extremely obvious. 

From was to the Maginot Line 

Watchword: Was. 

[LAUGHS IN 5 DE MAYO] 

happy cake day 

Emphasis on 'was' 

Aside from during the ones that check still. 

I see this sub has also been affected with reposts. 

You despite everything see that fire in the French individuals that made them successful warriors. Take a gander at the all fights throughout the last couple of years, not taking the administration's poop when they attempted to screw them over. You gotta regard that. 

Exceptionally dialectical 

I am dazzled by this synthesis of scholarly information 

Synthesis: The French are without a doubt an extremely warlike individuals, however that doesn't mean they're any acceptable at it. 

antithesis: Um Aktualy France was awesome at war, so there 

thesis: Cheese eating give up monkeys, lol 

I've personally had the exact inverse experience on this sub. I occasionally prefer to address historical inaccuracies on this sub, and locate that shielding the French military record is a fast way to get downvoted. 

Probaply because you've grown up after W. Bushs war in Iraq. Do you recollect opportunity fries and flushing french wine down the drain? 

I've seen more France is actually acceptable in wars than France bad memes 

History is not always kind to nations or individuals in general France has won incalculable battles and wars and really is still incredible 

France: Why do I hear supervisor music? 

Napoleon returns from his island 

Napoleon returns to his island 

Napoleon enters the chat*

Yeah the confederacy was a finished failure and many individuals hold up their generals to be greatly improved strategists then they were 

Cousin leeroy says to take him to the edge of this here flat earth and lose him it 

Korea needs an insurgency 

On another occasion I grabbed a bowl of pasta from a totally better place and, again, screwing ketchup as the sauce. I don't have a clue how anyone could eat it yet I sure proved unable. 

This is excessively off subject yet like a decade ago I lived in Korea which has a ton of really great bakeries since individuals don't have stoves in their homes. Anyway one day I made an appearance at one on my way to work to get something for lunch and they had these delectable looking scaled down pizzas. I grabbed the whole gang morning was anticipating lunch so I could eat that thing then when the opportunity finally arrived I took an immense nibble and it was made with screwing ketchup instead of tomato sauce. I almost hurled and am still traumatized to this day. 

That last one is pretty screwing extreme to be fair 

Upheaval is a French tradition, they do that in any capacity whatsoever. Tax raises? Unrest. High inflation? Upheaval. The present leader put ketchup on pizza? Transformation. 

Dislike the French did any sort of insurgency, ever, isn't that so? The south will rise again! S 

Be that as it may, confederates are r'bels, ya know? They show dat rebel soul ya see. I mean who could be a greater number of revolutionaries than fricking confederates, the French?! 

My favorite is Confederate flag toting fuckwits attempting to make enjoyment of France giving up. 

Imo americans are fatter than europeans = americans are sweatier = smellier. 

A great deal of french individuals are utilizing scent deodorant. 

Phrog eaters 

Truly, yet they are impolite and foul so I despite everything laugh 

They can't choose a republic 

Screwing lol 

French individuals are litteraly too angry to even think about being toyed by the administration for a really long time. 

Long after each other democracy on the planet has imploded, the French will in any case be getting a charge out of an effective democracy because they aren't excessively lazy to screwing riot when the situation calls for it. They're out in the roads if the baguettes come in stale. 

The French are also lovely badass with regards to upheavals as well, they don't take a ton of crap 

It's almost as if being butthurt and mindful outcomes in overcompensation. 

Based on history from memes I would say that France is unstoppable. In the past year or so I've seen more memes about how France has won a larger number of battles than each other nation compared to France give up memes 

historymemes: wait that's illegal 

Not lose lol 

What u wanna do against a nation that literally turned its entire economy towards war and a few times earlier was literally controlled by an army. 

France being acceptable at war in a great deal of its history simply making their fast defeat in 1940 significantly all the more humiliating 

I was as of late in Paris and went to the military history show at Les Invalides. Their stuff was really intriguing yet poo got plain sad by WWII 

Relies upon where you stand on the validation of Free France and De Gaulle 

I regard the resistance development however 

I hate film title translations. At least do a straight translation, however instead "Natives" transforms into "Days of Glory". 

Up until 1944-45, yes. After that they started to be replaced by french men from metropole the army got along the way. They just were perceived by people in general around 2006 with the film Indigènes. 

Wasn't the majority of the free French army African? And they've been whitewashed out of history. 

They were certainly not MVP but rather they were there regardless. 

French soldiers battled on each theater. Not in large numbers somewhere in the range of 1940 and 1943 yet at the same time. By 1945 they had 1.4 million soldiers clearing up german pockets andor marching on Germany. 

I'll give em WW1 as they were machines. WW2 is somewhat risky. 

They also won ww1 and ww2... kind of. 

They won two simultaneous battles at Auerstadt and Jena in 1806. start there. 

3.) German Innovation - No, I'm not wanking Germany yet their Blitzkrieg convention is famous for a reason. Lighter breakthrough vehicles all outfitted with radios to co-ordinate viably decimated French armored operations. The French are usually credited with having better tanks however that won't matter when said better Tank is encompassed by five lighter ones who act in unison while you're scrambling with flags or single direction radios for fortifications. This principle stunned everybody, not simply the French and it's not their fault they couldn't discover the weaknesses whenever they were barely allowed to. 

2.) Political Instability - Much like Germany in the Great Depression, France had parties pulling it both left and right because of their failure in handling the monetary unrest, bringing about the short French Commune and other small uprisings. While the nation weathered the tempest, the status quo at the hour of war was fragile, leading to an easily toppled government. 

1.) Last War Syndrome - Many of the central leadership of the French Army were veterans of the First World War. In their hubris, they adhered to principles that won them the war, put resources into static resistances and failed to appropriately modernize many aspects of their army (I.e: Communications from command to the front) 

The clear example utilized by individuals who say that France was horrendous at war is WW2. Around then, various things that compromised the French war exertion: 

Okay time to test myself. Somebody increasingly educated please check this, I'm running off of youtube recordings, restricted personal research and a couple of assumptions: 

Also Phelps: DO YOU F#CK YOUNG BOYS, MR. GALVEZ? 

Phelps: YOU FUCKING KILLED HER, DIDN'T YOU! YOU SICK BASTARD 

X Doubt 

Hahaha. They were pretty badass. They had these amazing bows, and get this - they developed the advanced stirrup. Made them the best cavalry ever. 

Screw the mongols. The Golden crowd cheated to many medieval total war play through. It arrived at where I'd always vanquish that side of the map last to avoid them. 

The give up monkeys thing went from a joke to annoy Pierre to a global image because they didn't hop on the neocon arabian homicide wagon, and frankly they were correct. 

Not so much, they didn't have a lot of decision after their guards demonstrated useless. Before the subsequent Iraq war France was generally perceived for its suicidally brave resistance against the involving Nazi power. Before that the Foreign Legion was practically legendary. Napoleon was entirely acceptable at scrapping, they invaded Britain and won so hard they fundamentally altered the English language. Traditionally they are very clever at war, superior to most. 

There can be cultural contrasts, an alternate languages, however France and Germany simply are too similar to even think about being at war with each other 

Truly, imaginary fringes lead to such a lot of ludicrous battles. The germans and the french are extremly close in many aspects. On the off chance that you take a gander at France and Germany... the nations contact each other, they have such a great amount in like manner... Their battle was more based on idelogical and political grounds than anything as well. These 2 nations clearly ought to find a sense of contentment with each other, and it is ideal that they are at the present time. 

There is clearly a ton to add and analyze to completely understand what happened there, yet I think the death of 60,000 french, and 60,000 german warriors in under a month is nothing to laugh about. Altough a more extended war between the two would have lead to more deaths, it is a possiblity WW2 itself wouldnt have been on a such scale if France didnt completly fuck up their strategy. I wouldnt say each decision were bad per see, yet at last, the outcome was here, and it was very catastrophical.

Be that as it may, french leaders did important strategical mistakes. They had as far as anyone knows the most grounded army in Europe coming into the war, as far as sheer numbers at least, yet the german army found a good pace fast, and they gave up in a month. 

truly, tanks dont go on the sea that easily, which probably helped GB a considerable amount in that aspect. 

I've always believed that France got its reputation for giving up from WW2. They gave up to Hitler after just half a month of battling. Britain was not in the best shape at the start of the war either yet Churchill defiantly would not give up. The entire world was watching that war intently so individuals saw France give up almost immediately, and they just never recouped from that reputation. 

That's a really prolonged stretch of time in case you're a U.S. resident however since the U.S. has just been around for 244 years. 

Napoleon is just 200 years ago tho 

You're directly about non europeans. I may very well be speaking for myself, however I imagine that the vast majority of us are more familiar with ongoing history like wwii than more established history like Napoleon 

France is somewhat similar to the Browns. Used to be perhaps the best team in the NFL. Then...yeah. 

It's the same as any present day contender or sports team. In case you're on a losing streak, especially in the huge matches, you're not going to get a mess of regard anymore 

I'm almost certain France has the most military triumphs of any nation (it helps that they're really old as well), however ongoing history hasn't leaned toward France being a military powerhouse, and that's probably why individuals see France this way and why they despite everything discover the "haha France give up" memes interesting. 

Those three are significant defeats, sure. Be that as it may, France is perhaps the most seasoned state on the planet, fairly old seeing the same crap on this sub, again and again tbh. 

They also think the French are snooty and inconsiderate. 

Algerian War 

First Indochina War 

Most clear one: giving up in WWII 

Individuals outside of Europe also observe the latest major French warsarmed clashes as misfortunes or stalemates. 

Also many individuals from outside of France andor Europe who either don't know history or decide to be blissfully ignorant about French history. 

Imagine not being thy greatest domain ever, way off the mark, yet everybody some way or another thinks you were LUL. 

That's simply my assessment however. 

The Japanese just expectation here is to force enough death and expenses on the Mongols that Genghis chooses pull the campaign and leave Japan alone. 

At the point when you set up all of this and add in the tactical virtuoso Genghis Khan and that's not a power I'd want to be facing. Genghis and his generals would utilize the Samurai no retreat attitude to his advantage, wearing them down at a distance and utilizing his infamous false retreat strategy against them. 

This is up for debate, yet I accept that the Mongols have better tactics, weaponry and training. The Japanese archers don't stand up to the absurdity of the Mongols expertise when terminating from horseback. Japanese steel is famously trashy, with Katanas being great mainly because they figured out how to make conventional weapons with bad steel, whereas the Mongols right now the assets of their vanquished adversaries to pull from. 

They'll be the aggressors in an overseas clash, which can put a ton of weight on supply lines and fortifications, yet I think the Genghis is more than capable of managing the logistics behind it. Also in their favor is the ability to outlast their enemies(usually. I'll return to that later.) They could live off the land for quite a long time with no inventory lines, because they came from the Steppe, where nourishment is regularly scarce. When there's no other option, they could drain their ponies for supplements and live on that for a couple of days. That being said, they'd be battling the Japanese on their home soil, so they have the advantages that accompany that, and regardless of whether the Mongols pillage their farms, they can live on what grains they have put away. Besides, a Samurai battling for his house is not retreating, so a defeat won't happen, probably ever. So with their nourishment stores, home field advantage and unrivaled battle morale, they can probably outlast the tenacious Mongols. 

Truly, I love Japanese bushido and there is not a military with preferred morale over the Samurai(that I can consider) however I'm putting my cash on the Mongols. 

I like to discuss hypothetical versus matchups with historical militaries, and one of my favorites is one that could have happened. Japanese Samurai versus the Mongols. Not the powers that were sent to Japan that kicked the bucket via Kamikaze twice(one of my favorite historical wtfs) yet actual Mongol Horse Archers against Japanese Samurai Archers. 

The Mongols are fascinating from a historical viewpoint. 

Alter: probably butchered that. A great many people call him by his last name of "Tuly" 

Oof. Anatoly Isaenko 

Right now living in Boone. What's his name? 

It would appear that I'm going to app state.. 

You should've heard his tales about his father and grandfather battling with the white Russians. He despite everything teaches at App State in NC. 

I want to be taught Mongol history by a Cossack lol...no fair 

And as if to demonstrate your point, I thought hooray was an advanced thing, got from hurrah. Had no idea it was Mongolian. 

Thats helps me to remember hardcore histories wrath of the khans. He says at the starting that what is being discussed at the day's end was decimation. To paint it as current historians do as them essentially advancing warfare is as bad as expounding on how all the nazis did was advance innovation. 

On the off chance that you want an accurate book, read Genghis Khan by Frank McLynn. He features things that came of Mongol triumphs that were acceptable yet doesn't avoid everything awful. 

It's a horrendous book. He really reaches to present his thesis that he wasn't some horrendous creature and was a defender of advancement however did bad things all the while. 

I will totally look at it however. 

He also utilized the british and the US' westward expansion as cases of historic state supported dread. He was exceptionally cynical, yet made logical arguments. 

I enthusiastically prescribe the book. Real eye-opener. 

That's an odd way to examine them. Would resemble contemplating the British Empire as a massive case of terrorism. 

I never read a lot inside and out on them. They were generally a case concentrate for his history of international terrorism class. 

I read Weatherford (?)'s book on Ghengis. Hadn't realized "hurrah" or "hurray" came from the Mongolian word "hooray". They had a great deal of impact back at that point. 

The Mongols are near and dear to my heart. I had an educator in school from the Russian Steppes and he taught them such that made them fascinating. 

France resembles the Mongols. Both get bad reps bc for awhile, they beat everyone senseless. Individuals are as yet salty and there's a purposeful exertion to revise history. 

I'm sorry Ms. Jackson, wOoOo 

for eternity? Ever? ever? 

Has ever or has never? 

alter: somebody called attention to my inept word decision so I fixed it 

Research taught me that both y'all on crack. 

HistoryMemes taught me that France has always been the greatest military power on earth.

memes taught me that France ran like a scared chicken during each war they at any point battled. 

What does that mean for Germany? 

Along these lines, Mali ? French fighters were awesome right now. 

Lmao on the off chance that you think any about the past four or five wars the us have been in were actually to help peoplebring democracy. Those were all exactly what they told the general population. The goals of all those wars have Ben to abuse poor nations for valuable assets and get trading leverage and they've succeeded inevitably. The us could've totally cleared Korea and Vietnam off the map on the off chance that they wanted to, yet they care about monetary gains while wearing a legends mask. 

Could have and would have if that had been the war goal. It was most certainly not. MacArthur pressed his attack against the North, yet once China stepped in, Truman shut down MacArthur and for political reasons confined the war to a simply protective one, which the US won. China's goal was to overcome the peninsula, and the US halted them. 

You're correct the US totally eradicated communism from the Korean Peninsula completely 

You're correct the US totally eradicated communism from the Korean Peninsula completely 

I mean it was the very meaning of a stalemate. We wouldn't have an isolated Korea on the off chance that we were triumphant. 

Lol do you think the US lost in Korea 

Brother .... Persian Gulf? 

Returning further doesn't turn out excessively well with Vietnam and Korea either. 

yeah they simply send a lot of troops, get totally screwing possessed, attempt to fail to salvage it for some time, at that point return home 

Totally unique how America "loses" wars. It's to a greater extent a, dislike anyone invades the US or the US loses their place as predominant super force. 

That..... actually depicts it very well 

The US has this awesome new stunt where they don't actually declare war, so they can never lose or be compelled to engage in that entire democracy thing (since, you know, no one but Congress can declare war). 

So which one are we meaning the US ? Syria? Afghanistan ? Doesn't bode well overall. 

You're just as acceptable as your latest war 

Y'all disregarding the Capetian gang as well 

That's sort of the purpose of the image. There's something else entirely to French military history than just WW2. 

Charlemagne is simply so distant. It resembles comparing Mousolinni to Agustus 

Everybody here is talking about Napoleon and sitting above Charlemagne 

Ey tabarnak calme toi! 

Screw les anglais 

Vive la france Vive le Québec libre 

On est la 

Ça fait plaisir 

Enfin la reconnaissance qu'on mérite 

Merci mec 

frero our decision class were literally in favor of hitler and denied any british dipolomatic allienace for a retaliate during vichy... indeed, even the germans were surprised to see that it was so easy to experience our outskirts, our famous tanks (of that period) weren't conveyed... I suggest watching the awards winnner documentary The distress and the pity. 

Also nations don't simply magically stay the same over large timeframes 

Nah man they just underestimated Germany and decided not to act soon enough. 

Very much put. Individuals give certain states anguish for the amount they spend on military, yet the fact is you can't get caught attempting to battle the last war, because you'll lose. Gotta be ready to battle the following war, and that takes costly ass failed tests, in a steady progression, at that point the ability to equip whole armies with the costly ass analyzes that didn't fail, at that point were exhaustively refined to be as battle ready and lethal as conceivable. 

Some of the time you know you're not sufficiently able to beat an alternate nation head on. That's what alliances are for. In the event that anything this is a diplomatic failure before a military failure. 

Your first point is bonehead. The French Defense plan was messed up by somebody in ANOTHER nation. On the off chance that your plan for the resistance of your nation requires another nation, you've botched it yourself. 

Belgium Neutrality was a thing BEFORE the French Defense plan though...Belgium had practiced an arrangement of Neutrality since before WW1. You gotta recollect nations like Belgium and Denmark wanted to be neutral. So they insisted on Neutrality until they were invaded, set up a token protection so it wouldn't appear as though they were collaborating with anyone, however were vanquished, and anticipated that the Occupation should be "Not a problem". Really they probably anticipated that Hitler should appoint some senator or something, in 30 years or so they'd have home principle, in 60 years or so they would have the option to regain autonomy. And they probably anticipated that things should go on, pretty much as normal under the new Nazi regime...of course they weren't right, yet it was a reasonable expectation for anyone who hadn't read Mein Kampf, or who didn't take Hitler truly. 

I'm not saying the Netherlands ought to have been marching into Berlin after half a month... in any case, they really ought to have had the option to last longer than 4 days. Indeed, even in their unprepared state the Dutch Army managed to perpetrate some relatively sizable misfortunes on the Germans... imagine on the off chance that they had actually been ready. 

Be that as it may, they didn't activate, dismissed their armed powers, endured the same leadership issues like France, utilized outdated hardware, and depended on Germany for present day gear (we have to defeat German tanks.. clearly we should purchase our Anti Tank weapons from the Germans!) 

The Dutch were literally given information about the invasion from a German Anti-Nazi sympathizer, and disregarded it. 

You literally have the absolute most solid terrain in Europe, and that's before you start flooding the screwing nation. The Netherlands had a reasonable industrial base, including aircraft and radios. Nothing to compare with Germany or France yet it wasn't put to use at all. 

We as a whole prefer to crap on the French, yet god damn the Dutch have the right to get poo on a piece for their performance as well. 

The Germans invaded the Netherlands to extend the allies. The Dutch were neutral and totally unprepared for war. 

The French do battle bravely, yet the Allied command is a finished disaster and they can never mount a viable counterattack, although the British and French make several valiant yet destined attempts. Meanwhile, German commanders are required and able to take initiative when they can and they end up at the channel, cutting the French Army in two. 

The French and British raced to set their plan in real life, however the Germans were already well ahead of calendar on their diversionary attack. At the same time, the French are attempting to pull out of the Netherlands, which is an act of futility. While this clusterfuck is happening in Belgium, the main German attack is sneaking past the Ardennes. 

Belgium wanted to remain neutral, however everybody realized they could be drawn into the war. The Allied plan relied upon the Belgians holding off the Germans at Eben-Emael, similar to they had at Liegé in 1914, however EE fell very quickly to German lightweight flyer troops. 

The Germans invaded the Netherlands to extend the allies. The Dutch were neutral and totally unprepared for war. 

Literally it was down to A: Belgium fking up the French Defense plan by getting neutral and not allowing French soldiers in, and B: Maurice Gameland being a finished simpleton and moving his whole hold North to support the Netherlands.

That’s cool

It's an area in Libya wherein 3700 Free French troops held the 37 000 Germans and Italians. It left the time for the British to regroup when they ve being defeated via Rommel several time. Without them the allies could have misplaced North Africa. We can also speak approximately Dunkirk in which the french troops store the brit's ass that were strolling away

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Like seriously, german generals we are pissed and surprised with the aid of the french navy. All in all of the invasion of France fee them plenty greater than they anticipated.

I might additionally and the cadets of saumur, the Dunkerque defense, Lille's resistance...

TIL

People need to kind Bir Hakeim in google...

Quick google search said four.87 percent of the French population died in international battle 1 which comes out to approximately sixteen million Americans nowadays

Still, it’s plenty.

But now that I’m considering it, you’re proper, it’s too high more than a few. The modern US populace is kind of 10 times the WW1 French population, so perhaps 10-15 million is closer?

That was my estimate of how many present day Americans could should die to approximate the proportion of French who died in WW1.

I think 50 million is too high a range of

I’m very a whole lot an admirer of Charles de Gaulle and the WW2 French Resistance. I do not forget “Vichy” one of the worst insults you could hurl at a person. But nonetheless, I can recognize why maybe France just wasn’t inclined or capable of repeat absolutely the hell they’d just gone via all too recently.

In 1939 or 1940, humans didn’t know what we know now about Hitler and the Nazis. They ought to have convinced themselves he turned into no worse than the Kaiser 25 years earlier than. And given a second risk to select between thousands and thousands dead or a negotiated peace... well, who the hell would pick out thousands and thousands useless? Especially if (not like us) you KNEW what that gave the impression of, due to the fact you’d visible it no longer so long ago?

When Germany invaded Poland in 1939, it turned into simply over 20 years for the reason that end of that “battle to stop all wars.” That’s like the distance between now and 911. Imagine if in place of dropping three,000 Americans then, we’d lost around 50 million people, almost all of them young men. Now believe the factor that killed all those humans turned into knocking on your door again, asking you to come out and play?

And let’s now not overlook that WW1 had been like the apocalypse for France. There certainly were folks who asked if the sacrifices had been really worth it. Over a million lifeless young guys and plenty of extra wounded. For what? A little bit of territory? National honor? Would it had been so terrible if France had lost the conflict early, but then got to keep that complete era of young guys?

They didn't. due to the fact they were waiting for an invasion at Calais.

Yes, they'd been constructing the atlantic seawall for years. But - you have got to man them as it should be for an excellent defense.

Which is why the Germans had invested maximum in their forces there.

Si.

Nope, they predicted a main assault in Calais however smaller assaults in locations like Normandy and Norway. The British secrets offerings weren’t stupid. They knew the Germans could note troops positions and expect landings so that they didn’t cover the Normandy invasion simply made an imaginary greater danger to trick the Germans into spreading troops out that specialize in Calais

They anticipated Calais, now not Normandy.

German High Command cared so little about the Normandy invasion that they Waited for Hitler to awaken from his nap to inform him. Even even though they wanted his approval to move tanks into role to counter the allied landings. Hitler predicted the main invasion to come back from Calais, and be lead by General Patton. The Germans had a totally high opinion of Patton. He turned into an American Officer that would provide Rommel a run for his cash. The Germans couldn't conceive that the Americans could absolutely have punished a trendy like Patton for his misconduct, and that they though the Normandy invasion changed into a diversion. In reality The Americans DID punish Patton, and he spent the months leading up to D-Day in Southern Britain with an military of cardboard squaddies, inflatable tanks, one guy running 10 radios, and any other 1 guy strolling round sincerely rapid pretending to be an entire brigade. Not a comic story.

Not certainly with d-day the Germans knew an invasion of Normandy could come and as soon as it occurred it wasn’t simply brushed off as impossible

To be fair the equal issue came about with Pearl Harbor and D-Day.

Every dog has its day.

A hassle, alas, I have in no way had.

Because the forest turned into nearly impenetrable and the Germans have been top notch fortunate on the way to undergo there

And yes, the French military did receive reports of the Germans coming via the Ardennes and determined to no longer act on them, as they notion it become a ploy by means of the Germans to get France to drag their troops faraway from their number one fortifications.

S:en.M.Wikipedia.OrgwikiArdennes

The Ardennes (mentioned R-den) is in the North, and honestly may be very antagonistic terrain.

The French were satisfied that you couldn't move an armoured column via the Ardennes. Which become really a reasonable assumption, a variety of German officers notion it a very formidable, brash, and unstable plan. The French had predicted SOME germans to pass via the Ardennes, they'd soldiers guarding the Ardennes. They have been not prepared for the Germans being crazy enough to drive tanks through the forest.

Didn’t the French literally have Recon telling them the Germans were coming from the woods to the South (I can’t do not forget the name) however they were like “nah there’s no way”?

WWII had developing pains for all nations involved. Britain genuinely had their proportion of failures from 1939-1941. The USSR suffered horrible defeats all through the Winter War, and later for the duration of there German invasion in 1941 and '42. The U.S. Had several tactical errors early within the Pacific and Mediterranean theaters... France was unlucky enough to NOT be capable of recover from it is early-war mistakes, and for that it gets shat on incessantly.

Militarily, you may cross on and on about how France did not hastily modernize in the interwar period (nonetheless the use of 60 12 months vintage rifles in frontline carrier because they did not have sufficient more moderen rifles, a lack of combined-palms coordination, the failure to conform and follow armoured processes, etc.), however even beyond that the BritishFrench combined military power shape became clumsy to say the least, and brought about a failure to exploit benefits or react quickly sufficient to weaknesses. There were points in Autumn 1939 wherein France had tremendous numerical and supply benefits over the Germans in the western regions of Germany, and had the FrenchBritish exploited this whilst the Germans have been focused on Poland, they may have probable changed the tide of the warfare within several months, rather than it taking numerous years.

France, like every of Europe on the time, became having an existential disaster in it's politics, with communists and socialists and fascists all preventing for electricity inside the authorities. France became, in 1939, also surrounded on three sides by using fascist dictatorships: Spain to the west, Italy to the South-East, and Germany to the East. They have been extraordinarily cautious of provoking struggle, with the thought being that they may ought to combat all three at once, in addition to contend with their personal internal fascist sympathizers, AND a population that became ravaged through WWI some 20 years in advance and extraordinarily distrustful of the governmentmilitary's dealing with of events leading as much as and in the course of that war. France was in an awful spot politically for WWII.

The French mucked up their reaction to WWII in a few special ways, however like anything, history didn't take place in a vacuum.

Yeah but that’s lots to do with leadership, again. Napoleon III changed into a whole brainlet that failed a couple of military campaigns and changed into chronically incompetent. Not simply with the Franco-Prussian War.. Let’s no longer forget he led the coalition to invade Mexico notwithstanding being up against a couple of guerilla factions (that outnumbered his entire host) and some U.S. soldiers.

That's quite apparent when you don't forget the fact that the allies were looking to recreate WW1 in 1940. Everyone blames the French for losing that war, even tho the british wherein additionally majors in the struggle of France. The actual hassle was the Franco-Prussian struggle, which the french were not prepared to combat, yet they still have been the ones who declared warfare.

Edit : replaced concept by way of although

The truth that we said no to US approximately Irak in 2001 did not help for the horrific rep either. Even although it changed into an awesome choice. IIRC it is when the french bashing certainly began.

I'm now not being a critic of the french. Its a damn shame what world warfare 2 did to their countrywide image. The fall of the 3rd republic become orchestrated by using, what was in my opinion, seditious traitors in its government. Happy to exchange away chunks of france so they might rule a part of it with out the lifestyles of the republic.

France's recognition as a world energy became demolished by using the certainly despicable conduct of that administration. I worry france's popularity may never get better within the eyes of the rest of the sector. They way the defeatists allowed germany to win that war has carried out lasting harm to french navy prestige.

There become a group in the french authorities that became all too satisfied to see the republic fall, as a long way as i ought to tell. The way they moved to the beat of their personal drum and within the incorrect direction, obtusely combating the remaining warfare turned into a countrywide tragedy.

The fall of the third republic became a SHIT SHOW of monarchist duplicity.

The french had been not just bypassed. The french killed them selves. They had opportunity to regulate however the infighting inside the authorities paralyzed its capacity to reply to any danger and to counter attack.

Not pretty. It was the 2-the front battle, which Germany feared, not France.

The real craziest thing is that the meme approximately France being terrible at struggle is because they were so right at warfare for see you later that Germany taken into consideration the struggle unwinnable if France wasn't eliminated from the field ASAP.

To be honest Italy was a large funny story in comparison to the nazy and the south-est border become not violated in any respect by way of the Italyan soldier, they even had to call for nazy backup for the reason that loss of life ratio became around 1:sixteen while Italy had three.5 MORE soldier than french troups deployed there. If it weren't for the early surrender that 15 days warfare in the Alpes ought to have turned horribly bad for Italy's navy (I just checked and Italy misplaced a submarine in that struggle, had 2100 frostbite victimes, 2600 wounded and 600 lacking, the 1:sixteen demise ratio become simplest the one who died in warfare.)

Ironically even though, surrendering worked out lots better in the end than clearly preventing, like definitely better for France.

Oh and don’t neglect Léon Blum actually beginning a disarming process of France.

So... not virtually isolated, however greater like they wanted to enroll in in changed into extremely reluctant. From my know-how, the population wasn't too eager for warfare however Roosevelt himself wanted to sign up for in earlier.

But to be quite truthful to Japan and Germany, america wasn't actually as devoted to their "isolationism" nor neutrality (as some might claim, but I digress). They were already gambling financial institution and manufacturing facility to the other Allied international locations, producing quite a few guns and sending them together with materials to the United Kingdom and a few other European allies. If some thing, the final nail within the coffin that precipitated Japan to unilaterally declare conflict (and bombing Pearl Harbour before stated declaration turned into received lol) changed into the fact that the US embargoed Japan and iced up their belongings as hostage against their taking South-East Asia off of their pals in Europe (i.E.: France, UK, Netherlands).

Imperial Japan

"Hold my beer sake."

US became committed to isolationism

France had the biggest standing navy inside the international on the start of the conflict.

That was genuine for a whole lot of the European powers though. WWI wiped out a technology of men and then the Spanish Flu killed extra humans in a shorter period of time than all of WWI. An complete era became gone however there has been additionally a 20 12 months hole among the wars.

Don't overlook they basically had no men to combat with anyway. WWI changed into in their outdoor and an entire era changed into long past, just gone.

If I remember right, the largest problem with french tanks were not technology or production however by and large approaches. The Etat-main would no longer favor new such things as tank divisions (which will become the norm thereafter) and stored the blended division model at first.

And in the end declaring conflict in 1938... I don't know the results... Like it may cross horribly wrong if Britain abandon France and Italy decided subsequently to aspect with Germany... Or it may have long gone the alternative side... tough to realize what should have happen...

You gotta give an explanation for me on the nuclear stuff, I do not know a component.

I disagree with the tanks due to the fact they did produce more than Germany and they did use them (handiest a element had been proper like 10003000 usable tanks against different tanks even as Germany had some thing like 1200-1400 powerful tanks on no longer a good deal greater around 2000).

I'm no longer certain that France might have been legitimate despite the fact that they persevered winning, because nationalistic ideas and ideologies were too harshly implemented, (so anger and all vengeance stuff just like France in 1914)... Moreover I think it is simply to difficult to be sure of one state of affairs after this whole victory (which could had been extraordinarily difficult to get thinking about that German navy had to be overwhelmed but).

While I don't disagree with what you said there are tons of factors that want to be taken in account to recognize the state of affairs.

Its real, however it was normally worry of a communist take over as opposed to a army junta. Id also like to feature that many french and brittish excessive ups had started to impeach the radicalness of the treaty of Versailles within the 30s which is a motivation for the Brittish campaign of Appeasement

Didn’t the consistent political problems internally in France additionally cripple the army, because they have been afraid of a military coup? Or is it me this is misunderstanding something?

Actually while France first of all declared warfare, Hitler without a doubt thought this changed into his give up, but then France did not anything for a year (drôle de guerre), in order that didn’t appear.

That coupled with the sheer incompetency of the État most important. France had the high-quality tanks within the global but essentially didn’t use them or produce them. They have been the most superior inside the nuclear bomb race but shipped everything to England and then the USA. On paper France should have destroyed Germany, however France should have attacked all through the Anschluss to nip Germany inside the bud, alternatively it left Germany to it’s personal devices.

England didn’t want Germany to be weakened an excessive amount of because France could have then end up the primary electricity with the aid of a landslide. So when you don’t hurt your opponent enough, he comes again and this time he is prepared.

When France was satisfied no longer to ransack Germany, a few Germans began announcing that they didn’t surely lose because it become the government that betrayed them. That form of discourse could were impossible to do if the French military had long past as much as Berlin and ransacked the town for true mesure. Instead Germans never in reality noticed enemy forces on their soil earlier than the armistice.

Look at the story of a german via Sebastian Haffner.

France have to have destroyed Germany after they gained the first time rather than leaving Germany unscathed (relatively).

Not exactly. Poland and France had an alliance. When Hitler attacked Poland, France need to have long past to help them, however for the reason that soviets had been in too, France abandoned Poland to it’s fate.

Had Belgium and Poland accompanied France’s plans they might have progressed their odds of winning in an extended drawn out conflict but all 3 could have suffered big casualties.

That honestly could have helped France despite the fact that to be fair to Belgium France’s strategy changed into essentially to use the Belgium troops as a protect while they dug in at the back of them. The French strategy turned into to throw Belgium beneath the bus. It changed into probably the quality plan for beating Germany but the Belgians were understandably pissed about it.

Dont forget about belgium wouldnt allow them to installation troops to the border, but had to rush troops in during combating.

Basically in 1939 France became surrounded by 3 fascist nations and turned into going through Germany who had a larger population and financial system in the meantime all of France’s maximum significant allies had both dully abandoned her or dedicated to sending a small fraction of troops to protect her. Honestly given how bleak the scenario turned into it’s even sort of extremely good they declared warfare while Poland changed into attacked.

Also France become confronted with a nearly not possible scenario. After WWI the British determined they would now not commit thousands and thousands of ground troops to shield France again but would simplest send a pair hundred thousand and attention at the blockaid. Russia changed into a chief French best friend in WWI and for maximum of the conflict Germany and Austria needed to fight them simultaneously however at the start of WWII the Soviets were actively selling resources to Germany. Italy changed into another predominant French ally which distracted numerous million Austro Hungarian troops in WWI however in WWII Italy became fascist. Serbia had also been an ally in WWI but changed into neutral on the start of WWII. Spain become additionally fascist and the US turned into devoted to isolationism.

The actual craziest component is that the meme about France being horrific at struggle is because they have been so true at warfare for goodbye that Germany taken into consideration the battle unwinnable if France wasn't eliminated from the field ASAP. Followed via what you stated about awful generals who didn't take that into account at all for the second warfare.

Even the squaddies were quite up for a fight really no matter the trauma of WW1, however watching for an ennemy on the frontier for months best to be bypassed... the concern of the destruction of Paris was one of the biggest motivation for surrender, due to the fact Nazis had been regarded to be extreme approximately fucking shit up already.

The craziest aspect although is that it became mainly the very top generals (état-main) that had been stupid, which came about at different times through french records. De Gaulle and some different generals that became principal gamers after the give up of France had been already in want of latest methods across the 30's but it was not taken into account

The hassle turned into that we faced a foe which changed into ahead in procedures throughout a turning factor of military records. Much the equal took place to Napoléon's ennemies till the 1810s, or to the Habsurg navy at Breitenfeld, or maybe to the romans endless times. We were late at a second whilst we simply could not be overdue. Oh and we had shitty generals too ofc, but all people does at a second or every other tbh

Sydney residents laughing.

Alright son Long Island and NYC are approximately to create a new kingdom.

howdy i stay there, i sense represented

Corruption's such an old music that we are able to sing along in harmony. And nowhere is it stronger than in Albany.

OOF

Are you kidding? I come from a metropolis with one subway line, and you need to wait ten minutes for the train. New York's subway is really pretty impressive.

It's the center of global finance, diplomacy, and possibly the single most recognizable city at the planet.

I've usually stated Gary Indiana was the capital of the sector

Well I don’t think everybody genuinely calls it the capital of the world but in conjunction with London it's miles the financial capital of the sector.

It's the headquarters for everything of the relevant portions of the us of a for business, in addition to many international companies. Chicago become #2 after nyc for plenty years because of its significance for agricultural and farm animals companies.

Maybe Chicago is for worldwide commodities or something

Why would you expect LA to be above Chicago? Chicago can be the most important metropolis for international agriculture.

They're in the equal tier, however Singapore is listed better within it. I'm most amazed that the US has no Alpha+ towns after New York's Alpha++, particularly the ranking of Los Angeles inside the mere Alpha tier (hell, they put LA under Chicago). I'm additionally stunned that Miami is the #4-ranked US town over places like San Francisco, DC, and Houston.

Surprised Paris is above Singapore.

Tokyo is just beneath them, at the side of other large monetary regions (HK, Paris, Singapore etc)

Nope, London and NYC are the handiest Alpha++ rated towns inside the global.

According to some metric that I can’t don't forget the name of the best metropolis that competes with NYC for global importance is Tokyo

You get not anything in case you look forward to it, await it, wait for it, WAIT

you get hate for it

Oh you get love for it

But you do not get to win unless you play in the sport

whilst you got pores and skin in the sport you stay in the sport

And I wanted what I were given

Absolutely got more than they gave.

"Cuz we'll have the banks, we're inside the same spot."

UN is based there, it is also world middle for finance. Only London competes with them for that as they nevertheless have control of the sector gold trade.

Who calls NYC capital of the world? The subway would not even paintings.

Imagine your town being more youthful than the era of electricity

The allies capturing Rome in June 4th 1944 and the Normandy landings days later

Virgin fall of Rome

Vs

Chad Normandy landings

Just curious

What are your referring to?

Imagine being so insignificant the autumn of your town become overshadowed by way of some landings in nowhere norther France.

Imagine having Trump tower

Imagine having a theocratic micro nation inside the middle of your town as a vestigial remenint of the papel nation.

Imagine now not having a grid sample

The capital of the Roman Empire turned into moved to Milan, or Mediolanum because it changed into referred to as returned then, in 286, then the Enpire changed into split among east and west. The East had Constantinople. The West had Mediolanum, then Ravenna as it neared its stop.

Steamed hams

Giant Concrete Egg

Absolutely nothing, I stay in Albany and there is jack shit right here

What's even special approximately Albany tho?

(For maximum of it)

Nor an empire

Yeah. The Holy Roman Empire changed into neither holy nor Roman.

To be truthful, most holy Roman Emperors have been more German than Roman.

To be fair, maximum holy Roman Emperors have been more German than Roman.

And seemingly that did not end with the Western Empire- even most of the Holy Roman Emperors showed up just lengthy enough to get crowned, then scrammed before the next rebellion ought to begin.

Edit; More information explaining it within the remark bellow

Worse than that. Most emperors by no means ever visited Rome, or if they did it turned into in best as soon as because of a few anniversary and then left as rapid as they might that shithole.

Rome turned into best a symbolic capital within the later imperial period, whilst western emperors often held court docket in ravenna or Milan, toward the border

All roads result in Rome

The main trouble is that it depends on how you construct the timeline of what is the State of New York and it is authorities. Many humans might disagree that British occupied and controlled New York, visible as a faithful colony by way of the British, might be a legitimate part of the timeline of the modern-day state authorities of New York.

NYC become the FEDERAL capital below the articles of confederation for the duration of that time. The NY STATE capital changed into first Kingston (earlier than the conflict) then Poughkeepsie (after the struggle), NYC, then ultimately Albany. And a few different places bc they truly couldn't decide. During the revolution NYC become always a horrific desire for nation capital due to maximum of it is residents being loyalists and it is proximity to British forces. And that it turned into occupied. The reason NY kingdom capital moved so often became because of the closeness and hazard of British invasion, which if captured would endanger the quickly to be kingdom's government and declared sovereignty.

You're proper however simplifying it, also the phrase order is making the timeline confusing that is a dishonest way of looking to correct a person.

Wrong. From 1784 to 1796, NYC turned into the capital for eight years, Albany for three, and Poughkeepsie for two. Albany become made the permanent capital in 1797.

Most in all likelihood because all of the government buildings are there and it’s be a pain to transport the whole thing for little to no purpose.

So it'd no longer be destroyed

Pitter patter

Please, take Albany

Then apologies. As is tradition.

Ask them in a political way to forestall

act accordingly

But any further unsupported insults in opposition to Canada could be visible as unprovoked agression, and we will act accordingly

As I Canadian, I formerly assure you we are not planning such a factor.

Don’t believe the ones Canadians guy, they’re just waiting to strike

Because then they’ll damage it

So why within the global have we now not moved it returned?

Edit three: Alright, shall we do this one final time. I were knowledgeable that the capital become no longer moved due to the warfare of 1812, it become moved in 1790

Edit 2: I were informed that the first edit is incorrect, and that my unique statement, changed into correct

Edit: I have been informed this is incorrect, NYC become by no means the capital of New York

Yeah it really is due to the fact for the duration of the warfare of 1812 i think, they moved the capital of New York to Albany because they did not need NYC to be destroyed

Trier would love a word

Those have been never the capitals, the ones have been just the places the emperors ruled from within the gadget Domitian set up. The capital remained as Rome till Constantine moved it to Constantinople

A knowledgeable guy you're.

Most of the time, yeah. One exception to this rule is the Netherlands. The charter says Amsterdam is the capital but the authorities is in The Hague.

The senate, officially the authorities, even all through the Dominate, remained in Rome.

Well the capital is wherein the seat of the government is no?

Im not certain Rome ever had a “legal capital” inside the equal manner they didn’t have a prison language. Just not matters that have been legislated within the historical world.

That is at the least my expertise and knowledge on that subject.

A de jure de facto type of element.

Mediolanum and Ravenna were legally merely houses of the Emprah.

Rome still remained the felony capital and the seat of the senate, the capital itself did not flow, only the Emperors did.

Acsssshtually;

Laughs in Mediolanum and Ravenna

sigh yes

Isn't it even though?

Whoa whoa whoa it’s now not all horrific right here

Corruption is such an vintage music we can sing alongside in harmony And nowhere is it more potent than in Albany

I went to college in Albany in the early 2000s. My sister went to college in Troy and whilst Albany was lousy, Troy changed into a terrifying shithole

Or Troy, and that is saying some thing. Only issue nice approximately it's far the airport is pretty clean to get inside and out of

For actual although, it's far. The downtown location anyway. It's nicer than just about everywhere in Albany proper now.

"Schenectady is genuinely picking itself up"

Being from the 518 someone saying they’d rather visit Schenectady is a statement I have in no way heard before.

I'd rather visit Schenectady than Albany.

It's a worthless little metropolis of petty bullshit. The only thing really worth seeing is the two Cathedrals.

Albany can be full of unusual fellows however they make rattling right steam hams!

Hey, at least they realize a way to steam an awesome ham!

I imply... Yeah

That location is basically a slightly removed New York City suburb

North Jersey

Also, fuck Albany, I agree although I live in North Jersey

Found the New Yorker

Rochester ought to be capital

Why? They make amazing steamed hams

And THATS why it’s the cap

This is authentic, however Albany would not be as bad if it did not have the charisma of evil surrounding it that emanates from the country capital.

I mean, I'm from philly, fucking hate Pittsburgh. And are becoming into fights with human beings from Pittsburgh over which town is better, but the moment every body from Harrisburg comes into the argument, the Pittsburg individual and I join collectively in roasting Harrisburg

What is it with states and hating their capital greater than anything else?

Fuck you too -LI

fuck Long Island

fuck Albany and

It's greater like each location talks shit approximately each different place, and no person can agree on where "upstate" (or the hudson valley for that matter) starts or ends, but we will all agree on two matters:

Long Island is it’s very own beast

The relaxation of lengthy Island as properly

nYc generates most taxes but those taxes are mainly consumed by way of "upstate" places and additionally... Sheldon silver changed into a human turd

BUT something i assume ought to be regarded is that nYc has surely seriously considered trying to become independent from nys because of the tax state of affairs...

Not excactly authentic... If u arent from the 5 boros then ur from an upstate location (to any new yorker ive ever met or known in my half century of existence)... Thats as easy as it receives

can affirm I live in north valuable Jersey, approximately 30 miles out of nyc

New York metro place contains basically the whole northern half of New Jersey.

Well the metro vicinity interior New York nation.

Yeah, however wouldn't that be a chunk inaccurate because the metro place spans into New Jersey as nicely?

Tfw New Haven is downstate

And humans from Westchester agree its downstate in my experience so...

So say upstaters, but NYC citizens will tell you the entirety north of Westchester is upstate. I doubt we're going to ever agree on it.

If your county has a Metro North station you are downstate.

NYC metropolitan area. (Although New Yorkers can not even agree on where the transition is).

Todayilearned NYC may be called downstate NY.

We hate them backward cow folk

We hate them metropolis folk

every unmarried human occupied territory in the records of time:

From downstate NY, live in CNY now. Made the BIG mistake of calling CNY ”upstate.” They consider that an insult.

Haha unification in opposition to a common foe. Very American. I like it.

This is a formidable comment.

As somebody who lives nearby I can attest that Albany’s sole characteristic is that it possibly has the maximum liberal use of concrete in any U.S. City. Seriously, the state capital plaza is essentially just one huge concrete slab.

Roc town represent

Hello fellow Rochestarian or whatever that is

Love my town of Rochester.

Yeah it has no character. Binghamton, Utica, Syracuse, Rochester, even Buffalo all suck. But as a minimum they have a few redeeming traits and have person. Albany simply fucking sucks.

Just to be clear the people there are pleasant it's the town itself it really is awful. I've met humans from Albany that say its terrible.

Ahh so much less place greater attitude?

Albany's most effective upstate inside the most literal experience and do not worry us upstaters hate it to :)

I do not mind upstate humans. But I do hate Albany.

Todayilearned that human beings from upstate NY don’t like downstate NY. Which is like humans from Otttawa hating Toronto. Wait. Ok this assessments out.

The handiest issue that upstaters and downstaters can agree on: Albany is lousy.

I have by no means heard of someone being dissapointed they did not get IDed

I've never heard of all and sundry having police powers wear a protection jacket. I have no explaination, but I doubt the guy changed into positioned underneath arrest.

Was it a weekend? Downtown is a ghost city whilst the nation personnel aren't there. It may be very strange.

Not the equal guy but I’ve lived in Albany my complete lifestyles (forty years) and clearly no non-public contract cops or security patrols or whatever like that here. There are plenty of actual police officers around downtown, specifically around bars.

But you’ve never seen non-public security downtown?

Idk, they had been absolutely equipped. They had ‘uniforms’ on... military boots, tac pants, and that they had high-quality jackets with a emblem on the front and ‘SECURITY’ in reflective lettering on the returned. They had what gave the look of OC spray, cuffs, and radios (no firearms). Honestly, they seemed the part a lot that I didn’t question them. They had been all fairly clean-cut and professional looking, apart from being overweight. Whereas the man who tried mugging me become an absolute nuclear fucking catastrophe.

The humans were probably they’re friends. And most humans for the duration of the winter stay internal at night motive it’s form of depressing. Another bizarre tale is I on foot right into a Walmart and my mom(RN) day this guy along with his head down out of doors and she or he asked him if he changed into k and he stated yeah I’m a undercover cop. And proceeded to piss himself. Let’s just say there are a variety of crazy people right here. So pretty sure the ones people aren’t police officers.

Can you explain what the hell was going on? Why have been the streets so empty? Why have been there security guards doing foot patrols? Are they sworn as special police officers?

Living in Albany all my lifestyles I can tell you, this isn’t supprising.

This sounds like some SCP shit guy. I wanna write a tale approximately Albany now

Nope living there all my existence they may be def friends.

I can simplest expect a few downtown organizations (or the metropolis itself) have a agreement with personal protection firms and they provide protection patrols for the downtown location to supplement police officers. In this type of case I may want to surely see them being tied into dispatch. But why they’d be responding to a name like mine is past me.

I suggest, they'll as properly have. I don’t realize wherein they came from, nor wherein they went to.

Would've been better if they regarded slowly out of a hedge, like Homer Simpson.

Convenientcop

"call the ambulance!...But now not for me."

I grew up in orange county, and in my domestic city there has been a niche in which there has been actually a gunshop round the corner to a pilates studio. This is the epitome of the Hudson valley in my thoughts.

Hey! He found the tablets in Susquehanna County PA. We get a number of the credit score for the cult

Edit: sorry for the formatting, on cellular rn.

Can verify that, my man Joey founded the LDS church out in Fayette for the duration of the Second Great Awakening. Wild usa You realize what number of cults commenced up there lower back in the day?

There's some thing deeply weird in Upstate New York.

You realize what number of cults commenced up there lower back inside the day? How many bizarre hamlets there are with simply no-call churches that I saw way up within the middle of nowhere?

Upstate has always been something else.

My parents stay in orange county now and it’s actually stunning how you may see a confederate flag an hour from manhattan

Then while you reach the Canadian border it turns into "north" again. Lol

This is the 2d time nowadays I've read some thing like this, in which in case you begin from the south of Florida and move north, it will become extra "south", like New York becomes extra "south" once you cross north from the kingdom's south (i.E. NYC).

We're the Florida of the Northeast.

That's an excellent tale, and sounds like some upstate NY shit

This life is only a longer dream.

Dreams are different lives you stay.

So accurate, like there may be a ton of action however none of it may be defined and it would not surely resolve

This appears like some of the goals I have.

Edit: I forgot to say, they didn’t ask to peer my ID, nothing. I requested in the event that they “need to see my creds,” and they didn’t seem to understand what that meant, so I just said fuck it.

Just an exceptionally strange enjoy all-round. I’m still now not entirely sure what precisely passed off. I didn’t even tell my buddies on the bar, because it was so strange I was afraid they wouldn’t trust me.

A little while later some men jog up to me, and I should inform right off the bat they weren’t law enforcement officials. Just how they approached, etc. Merely the truth they have been on-foot changed into a bit bizarre, too. They grab the guy and inform me that ‘they’ve were given this, thanks’ and that they shuffle him off down the street. Their jackets said ‘Security’ at the back.

I dropped a few pals off at this bar, and I needed to cross around the corner to park. I did, and I began on foot returned to the bar. I referred to how quiet the metropolis changed into, and the way empty the streets had been; Very extraordinary. So I’m approached by someone who finally ends up trying to mug me. I land up holding them at gunpoint, as I’m a police officer (out of nation), and I name 911.

Albany became the strangest town enjoy I’ve ever had.

For actual even though, and I cannot pressure this sufficient, fuck Albany

I also heard that Paris were given captured by means of Germany. Is that how the U.S. Entered the war?

Yeah we also got Paris, Texas, and I heard that Paris is quite big

You got more than two massive cities within the US

There's plenty extra huge towns than NYC and DC

I'm really glad they did because now we get 2 huge towns rather than 1

I dont care what all people says DC is rightful MD territory RECONQUISTA WHEN

Thank god for that too due to the fact Maryland and Northern Virginia might’ve been yeehaw us of a with out DC

It became going to be, however the fucking slave owners desired it towards the South

This submit is made through DC gang

They had to cross and make a new one.

Yeah so changed into Philly and fucking York, Pennsylvania

It changed into at one factor.

Neither the capital of your personal u . S . A .

Nicosia as well, despite the fact that Northern Cyprus isn't extensively recognised.

Putting a country in a courtyard is in reality cheating.

Putting a country interior a metropolis is dishonest.

Name tests out 👍

I live in Mexico City, can verify

wdym Mexico City is the capital of each usa south of the border s

Tel Aviv shudders

Jerusalem leaves in embarrassment seconds later after everyone laughs at it.

Just yesterday, South Africa become declared the new capital of Tajikistan, changing Dushanbe.

? As a ways as I recognise South Africa is not the capital of any united states

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yes I'm aware, I changed into making a shaggy dog story. It will be the capital of the UN, which represents all nations :)

now not the capital of all countries, just that jerusalem might be beneath global control (study below UN jurisdiction)

If it is undeveloped then it is not genuinely accessible then is it

They could not believe that even those had been marginal in comparison to the actual city erasing powers of atomic weapons. I imagine even now there may be a weapon obtainable, undeveloped, that places the power of the atom to disgrace.

Well they all notion their machines have been the pinnacle of guns designs. It's clean to assume you could wipe out the entire global when you go from bayonets and un bored guns to artillery and device weapons and bombs and planes a touch more than a century.

I nevertheless wonder why anybody belived that both ww1 or ww2 might end all wars. Only cause why ww3 failed to manifest is to many nukes.

Also funny how positive UN changed into that the sort of plan ought to ever succeed. Maybe they certainly thought the sector became over a brand new leaf and WW2 will be the ultimate conflict.

Funny enough within the 1947 partition plan "The City of Jerusalem shall be established as a corpus separatum underneath a unique worldwide regime and will be administered with the aid of the United Nations". Jews fully widely wide-spread that, Arabs did now not. So it might were the capital of all countries apparently.

Username exams out?

We’ve all been there.

2 state answers noises.

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Rome, the handiest capital of two countries.

+1 stab

City of the world's desire

People simply appreciated it better that way.

People just preferred it better that manner

People just liked it better that manner

That's nobody's enterprise but the Turks'!

Why did Constantinople get the works?

Been a long time long gone, Constantinople

No you could’t pass returned to Constantinople

Take me back to Constantinople

People simply preferred it better that manner.

Why they modified it I can’t say

Even old New York became once New Amsterdam.

indignant Byzantine noises

Mamas mamas also had a ton of slaves digging up all that gold.

Good playa Mansa Musa! Good playa!

This comment phase is an excellent instance of the way perspective isn't about what you're looking at, however in which you're looking from and what you pick now not to see.

So tons bullshit and nonese misinformation!

He absolutely changed the way humans buy matters for exact, offers offerings that make the us financial system run and now's investing in space travel. Hes like an instance of what capitalism allows an person to acquire while hes free

how is he the literal personification of the flaws of capitalism?

And most of Amazon's revenue comes from their internet services. Without the company's investment in that infrastructure over the years, the net might be a extraordinary area. We all advantage from Amazon, even if you do not shop there.

I understand it's a meme but Bezos constructed Amazon, a provider that nearly every person uses, that Is pretty incredible. Also maximum of his fortune Is in Amazon stocks, he doesn't have 100+ bil in literal money

bUt eLoN iS sO qUiRkY aNd cOoL

consider being so brainwashed that you really suppose “oh we simply want more cool billionaires”

You forgot the owned thousands of slaves and pressured other heaps to work to death within the gold mines

Yes, believe being so confident. That article would not cite sources for its numbers. It additionally would not define what a 'wealthy' circle of relatives is. There's is a international of distinction between a 10m networth own family and a 10b networth circle of relatives. Look up richest households in the US and spot how lots of them have had multi-generational wealth. It could take notable level of stupidity for their descendants to blow their wealth. You literally can't spend the amount of cash these people have faster than it grows passively. Yes it does get diluted the greater descendants there are, however a fragment of insanely rich is nonetheless rich.

TIL anyone with the equal remaining call is associated.

While researchers admit the flaws to tracing circle of relatives wealth the usage of surnames

I would say 600 years is pretty some generations.

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That’s why many obscenely wealthy human beings have rules in location to entail their fortunes undivided to one heir so that the wealth survives for centuries. They additionally create trusts to stop any one inheritor from throwing the cash away. That’s the idea of ‘old international’ laws concerning inheritance for royalty and aristocracy.

Most billionaires wealth do not closing many generations either

This isn’t speaking approximately billionaires. This is talking about just any circle of relatives with any amount of wealth to spend. The 10% who do maintain their wealth after 2 generations possibly includes all the billionaires families.

believe being so confident yet so wrong at the equal time

Billionaires are like the folks who get the brilliant unique founders percent in video games, as soon as the opportunity is long past they've a bullshit benefit with considered one of its perks being money is now genetic, most effective problem is the opportunity was while your terrific grandparents were young however in case you're fortunate the gadget bugs and one asshole hits it large

Mansas slaves: Am I a comic story to you?

OP: Mansa is the personification of ways a dude with masses of cash can help humans.

Cringeworthy meme

Comprehend that.

There is not anything you or me have ever visible that this guy couldn't afford to buy.

If that isn't always incomprehensible amount of money, I do not know what is.

Jeff Bezos has over ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS to his call. That's literally more than THREE HUNDRED TIMES extra than someone making TEN MILLION a year makes in THIRTY THREE years.

That's a 3rd of a BILLION dollars. In Thirty Three years of making 10 MILLION dollars a 12 months.

Making 10mil a 12 months, you'll make 100mil in ten years, 330 mil in 33 years.

But we're poor so we've skewed perspectives so we could say a person making 10mil a yr is the actual rich character.

At 50 grand, you view a person who makes 20x what you are making as a wealthy individual at 1mil a year.

Let's say 50 grand for simpler math.

Most of us paintings for somewhere between 25 and 70 grand a year, right?

Let's just...

Not Incomprehensibly rich? Are you positive?

I suggest, Mansa Musa is so pro that he even died inside the 12 months 1337.

I think a hundred and ten.000.000.000,00 is a quite incomprehensible sum of money my dude.

I recognize it is only a meme and a joke but crashing some other country's economy by allotting so much gold wouldn't be referred to as helping. You just drove organizations out of commercial enterprise!

Suggesting a CEO of a organization has extra dominion over their personnel than a literal monarch might have over their subjects kind of seven-hundred years ago is completely unfounded. People like Bezos surely have a whole lot of power; but that doesn’t compare to having the authority to publicly execute a person with out purpose.

Amazon has extra personnel than the 34 smallest international locations have humans. It's definitely no longer a horrific assessment at all. Bezos possibly has simply as a lot influence, if not greater, over the daily lives of Amazon employees because the ruler of any of those nations has over their populations.

And comparing a CEO of a organization to a ruler of a countryempire.

He’s actually playable in CIV 6... How a great deal cooler do you want the guy to get?

Please dont glorify slave owning tyrants as 'cool dudes' in a manner that diminishes the massive negative they added to peoples in their international locations

I understand that is a meme, but if yall don't like Bezos getting rich the use of capitalism simply you wait until you find out how most of history's richest people got their bread

worshipping 'generous' literal monarchs lmao

In civ 6 you can use a few bonuses to making buying armies of troops loose, easy domination victory.

Lol. Who are you kidding?! You have definitely no idea what $a hundred and ten billion appears like. It's simply a variety of to you, like Pi

"Jeff Bezos; 'Worth $110 billion. Stupid rich, however not incomprehensibly rich.'"

I don't suppose all of us desires to flood the financial system with that degree of wealth, greater that we might recognize it if some people might prevent hoarding it

Bezos’s price only exists in faith inside the gadget. A lots higher solution is simply unionising the warehouses

"Why don't we simply tax the billionaires until they may be not billionaires?" s

To be fair, the economy might be in even extra chaos if Bezos cashed out all his Amazon shares

a hundred and ten billion is pretty incomprehensible, I'd say. Proven by means of this meme.

I thought he become the ruler of Mali now not Chad

Step 1 wait to divorce his cheating self

Yes I understand. I didn’t realize that till fairly recently however she changed into married to him before he got this rich. If I keep in mind efficiently Jeff became sound asleep round with that one news anchor so she become in the right as nicely.

I recognise you have been making a comic story however I just desired to factor out his wife was definitely necessary to the early achievement of Amazon. She earned that money.

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*55 billion

That’s type of my factor, it’s impossible to inform due to the fact there aren’t surely any sources. And even the use of the simplest estimate I may want to find, there’s no way to convert the value of money from seven hundred years in the past to these days. My decrease sure calculation become £800m, my higher bound become £6bn. It’s absolutely arbitrary.

That's from wiki which isn't primarily based on present day money owed and doesn't cite it is resources. From accounts decades later, it isn't always clean what number of people he had or how a lot gold they carried however that determine might be an embellishment.

It's $1,066,500,000 assuming gold is $49,375

Gold may nicely have been scarcer, but the whole thing else turned into as nicely. There hadn't been almost as an awful lot gold mined, however a loaf of bread required that many exclusive people plant the wheat, achieve it, thresh it, mill it, and bake it - all with hand tools and maybe a windmill. And don't even get me started on clothes!

That is a few high-quality competencies man, sincerely excellent

If I just liquidate his gold these days the use of current prices, 21,600kg = £852,784,416. But of path, again then gold became scarcer and likely had more purchasing electricity. But additionally, exceptional economies in isolation would have distinct values for gold, so that you should even purchase gold in Constantinople cheaply and sell it in Italy at a profit.

If I convert his gold to £ (1300) and then regulate for inflation, Using an 8g gold florin redeemable for 80p, a gram of gold is really worth £130.67 nowadays. Multiply that by means of Musa’s gold... He’s well worth £2,822,499,000.

I determined someone on Quora who estimates that a gold piece (four.5g) had purchasing electricity equivalent to £1,290 today. If he had 21,600kg of gold (12k slaves x 1.8kg gold), in England he may want to buy £6,192,000,000 worth of goods today.

I made a few very primary estimates on every other submit using numerous conversions (I should even use the rate of beer to cost his gold!) to demonstrate how the approach of calculation substantially warps a end result over any such massive time period:

It might provide us a incredibly beneficial lower sure. Which is pretty true imo.

The handiest actual reference I’ve encounter is that his 12,000 slaves carried a few 1.8kg of gold each on his caravan. We could use that to fee his fortune (however there are numerous ways to convert this into modern-day cash that yield distinct results) however who is aware of how tons more gold he had...

The part about him having 400 billion bucks is absolutely made up. No accurate file changed into ever product of his wealth.

I'll play that

Jeff Bezos Civ VI mod coming proper up!

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Source: 'Mansa Musa's gold in Mamluk Cairo' by Warren C. Schultz.

This is really just a myth. We have Mamluk monetary statistics from the time that describe, at worst, a minor drop in gold's fee. Most sources do not even characteristic this drop to Mansa Musa.

However, Musa's generous movements inadvertently devastated the economies of the regions via which he passed. In the cities of Cairo, Medina, and Mecca, the unexpected influx of gold devalued the metal for the following decade.

So essentially the biggest Runescape drop birthday celebration in records?

Yep, for his pilgrimage to the Mecca

Musa's adventure became documented by means of numerous eyewitnesses along his route, who had been in awe of his wealth and considerable procession, and data exist in a number of resources, consisting of journals, oral accounts, and histories. Musa is known to have visited the Mamluk sultan of Egypt, Al-Nasir Muhammad, in July 1324.[23] However, Musa's beneficiant actions inadvertently devastated the economies of the areas thru which he passed. In the towns of Cairo, Medina, and Mecca, the surprising influx of gold devalued the metal for the following decade. Prices of goods and wares became significantly inflated. To rectify the gold market, on his manner lower back from Mecca, Musa borrowed all of the gold he should convey from cash-creditors in Cairo at excessive hobby. This is the only time recorded in records that one guy at once managed the fee of gold within the Mediterranean

If I consider successfully he gave away a lot gold in his travels that the locations he passed via had economic issues from inflation. Could be incorrect, want to look it up again, its been a minute.

Didn't Mansa Musa motive mass inflation because of his wealth?

Prices of products and wares became significantly inflated. To rectify the gold marketplace, on his manner back from Mecca, Musa borrowed all the gold he ought to convey from cash-lenders in Cairo at excessive hobby. This is the best time recorded in records that one guy directly controlled the fee of gold inside the Mediterranean.[19]

That is not the high-quality element imho, after he located out that he had destabilized these areas he went again and took out massive loans in try and restablize the neighborhood economy. Dude became a G.

Can you provide me a source due to the fact this appears unlikely due to the fact he changed into a working towards muslim

After realizing how plenty economic damage he did freely giving that lots gold to that many human beings at the same time as on Hajj, he then took again the gold as loans with stupidly excessive interest quotes in an try and stability the value of gold in the Mediterranean. He is the handiest individual in records to singlehandedly manipulate the fee of gold within the complete Mediterranean.

Way after.

Was this before or after the bronze age collapse?

Found this while looking up the housing marketplace crash the other user mentioned in 1st C Rome.

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The accurate ol' bronze age disintegrate. An monetary recession so fucked up Greeks forgot the way to study and write for centuries. And such things as Homers Iliad are basically medieval romance stories, for the classic Greeks approximately bronze age Greeks.

There become a civilization destroying crash at the cease of the bronze age. In antiquity there have been intricate alternate networks bringing the raw materials wanted for making bronze all across the Mediterranean, and centering around the empires in Mesopotamia and Egypt. People still don't know what happened, but those alternate networks have been disrupted and the financial system of a number of the bigger empires crashed so tough that it basically worn out maximum of the civilized world. There had been invasion through the mysterious sea peoples, Assirya and Egypt barely survived but its energy substantially diminished, the first-rate Hittite, Mycenaean, and Babylonian Empires collapsed completely, Greece and the Phoenicians became the brand new upstart powers and commenced colonizing the Mediterranean. Most of humanity became residing in those Empires that were destroyed by using the crash that occurred in much less than a century.

Lmao so Venezuela is simply the Roman Empire however on the XXI century.

Also, enormous amounts of precious metals were being shipped to India to exchange for spices, via Roman Egypt.

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I'm oversimplifying it. Read this in case you want extra detail:

And whilst all this is happening, the not unusual pleb, with limited access to gold and silver, have to motel to barter gadget as their coinage gradually will become useless. This ends in total economic failure.

Repeat

this devalues the money and causes inflation, which in flip results in the soldiers annoying more pay to be able to cowl their expenses, among different things.

To pay them, more coins had to be minted, or more base metals mixed into the coinage, debasing the cost of the currency.

The soldiers demand more pay for loyalty, their demands need to be met or else they may certainly kill the emperor as it's a civil warfare and there are half of a dozen emperors and they could without difficulty jump deliver to any other.

It commenced a vicious cycle of:

Oh actually. The Romans did not recognize inflation absolutely so that they stored debasing their personal coinage if you want to pay for his or her wars in the 3rd century, which ultimately led to hyperinflation in the 4th century. It's a massive a part of why the Western Roman Empire dissolved.

Holy fuck I do not don't forget that, however I'm going to reas into it! Christ! I imply by using the gods! (Don't crucify me Roman Legionaries!) The first marketplace crash become a housing marketplace crash!

I cannot even grasp that scale. Like, I on occasion have trouble going outside my 30-ordinary years of revel in.

Pretty wild huh? Our human ancestors were pretty ingenious and prolific as well. We owe plenty to them.

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"Claims for the earliest definitive evidence of manage of fire through a member of Homo range from 1.7 to 0.2 million years in the past (Mya).[1] Evidence for the 'microscopic lines of wooden ash' as managed use of fire by way of Homo erectus, beginning some 1,000,000 years in the past, has huge scholarly support.[2][3] "

Fire become managed extra than 1,000,000 years in the past:

Edit: Never thoughts, rattling humans are impressive

It'd simplest be in the final 250,000 years or so, however it really is still plenty of time for struggle on a big scale.

Pretty wild huh? Our human ancestors have been pretty imaginitive and prolific as properly. We owe lots to them.

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"Claims for the earliest definitive evidence of manipulate of fire by means of a member of Homo variety from 1.7 to 0.2 million years ago (Mya).[1] Evidence for the 'microscopic lines of timber ash' as managed use of fire by Homo erectus, beginning some 1,000,000 years ago, has huge scholarly support.[2][3] "

Edit: Fire became controlled more than one million years ago:

And it is very recent history. I'm imagining conflicts from a million years in the past between the people that determined fire. Who is aware of how many impartial discoveries of fire befell earlier than that however had been worn out for one cause or any other.

And then there may be another 200,000 years to pass earlier than that.

Yeah considering how lengthy history stretches may be a quite large mindfuck. 2000 years in the past Jesus lived, 2500 years before that the pyramids were constructed, another one thousand years earlier than that you had the Uruk. Idek what turned into going for those 6000 years among that and the domestication of vegetation and animals. Makes me sad to assume of all the stories and people I’ll in no way understand of.

Who is aware of what number of time civilization needed to "restart" due to the fact the more superior humans fucked up and all died.

I believe weatheland issues in all likelihood brought about thousands of situations like this throughout human records. Who is aware of how many time civilization had to "restart" because the more advanced people fucked up and all died.

From my research I keep in mind studying a passage from some sumerian that described essentially how they'd farmed the land too much and inside the wrong manner and now they had been all basically fucked due to the fact the whole economic system depended on the farming.

Yeah nah it's ridiculous to faux that become the primary. The Romans had a housing marketplace crash in the 1st Century that brought about mass financial institution closures when humans tried to withdraw their money in a panic (sounds familiar no). And there are dozens of different examples earlier than Musa's inflation bonanza suggests up in the 14th century.

People love my puns, they say their gold, however I in my opinion think their Au-Inspiring

When it involves rock puns, you certain have a silver tongue.

They clearly did, many were unemployed within the new Bronze age notwithstanding the recognition in their portfolios on LinkedTin

Edit: hit. Wow

Did they but rock bottom?

Plus this included the sea people, who I constantly found clearly interesting.

I suggest, that took place around that time, however the past due Bronze Age disintegrate become a sequence of events that essentially tore down the shape of civilization within the Fertile Crescent place. Apart from Egypt, maximum of the main gamers in the place disappeared for the duration of this time, it turned into plenty extra than just the use of iron over bronze.

And wasn’t just an economic crumble, it became a simultaneous fall apart of interconnected and specialised societies possibly due to a combination of weather change, environmental degradation, mass migration, decadencecorruption, and battle. The event became corresponding to the fall of Rome and each collapses serve as a warming to our interconnected and specialized societies as we face climate exchange, environmental degradation, mass migration, decadencecorruption, and probable water wars later this decade.

This is whilst humans phased faraway from bronze ad began using iron.

In case a person reads this and thinks it is (simply) a comic story, the [bronze age collapse] (s:en.M.Wikipedia.OrgwikiLate_Bronze_Age_collapse) was a real aspect.

I’ve fallen a ways even though, I was once royalty, now I’m only a plain antique Tsar-born based totally lifestyles form.

He hasn't hit rock bottom but.

Get out.

Ancient humans genuinely had an economic crash when humans began using bronze, it was a large blow to the ROCKMARKET

No manner could it were the first financial crash in international history. There had to of been something of his scale within the heaps of years earlier than him, right?

It's nearly like economists are important. (Granted they failed to exist yet)

you’d roll your eyes and be approximately to mention some thing this time, however oh more gold

he should never simply order a pizza, for example. He had to buy each pizza, raze the kingdom’s pizza eating places, and murder every body who knew how to make one.

essentially something he did had major knock-on results.

He wasn't so cherished in his native land after his adventure although, he pretty an awful lot took his empire's treasury with him and gave a lot away that subsequent generations of his hometown could still be feeling the monetary impact.

Mansa become his title.

Both wonderful philanthropists. And Carnegie wrote the gospel of wealth, explaining his notion that it become the moral obligation of the rich to use their assets to assist the much less fortunate.

They each did. Rockefeller certainly donated approximately 50% more money to numerous charities over his lifetime than Carnegie did.

Carnegie hooked it up tho.

This is reddit, we simplest communicate about the scum of capitalism here.

He without a doubt believed god gave him the expertise to make as a great deal cash as possible so he can donate as tons as he can.

Reddit is annoyingly woe-is-me and anti-capitalism, that's honest, but my god I’ve by no means truely seen any sane counterbalance to that. Seriously, thank you—a few doofus right here might suppose that Rockefeller was pure evil—he’s a complex individual for his enterprise practices (which weren’t exactly unique to the barons however even exemplified by using the average joe which human beings like Tarbell conveniently want to omit) however one trait he always had became his generosity because he changed into a child.

thanks for writing this. I can inform you read Titan as nicely. He also helped the founders installation the primary (or at this factor the oldest) black girl university whose call become given in honor of his wife, Cettie Spelman whose dad and mom had been activists within the anti-slavery movement.

He also sold up a grove of redwoods in California after being brought there on a excursion so that you can keep them from being logged for timber.

Those probably aren’t even the most important philanthropic projects he undertook, they’re simply the ones that come to thoughts. Depending on the way you calculate, Rockefeller’s contributions amounted to tens of billions of today’s bucks. And he didn’t simply do it all right on the quit out of some last ditch effort to ease his conscience. He was a beneficiant individual by nature from the beginning.

The RIMR, to which Rockefeller contributed over $60 million in then-yr USD, became one of the first biomedical studies institutions within the world and served as the model for plenty nevertheless round nowadays.

He additionally singlehandedly funded the advent and all the early development of the University of Chicago, which was hugely costly even for him.

He singlehandedly funded the initiative that practically eliminated hookworm in the US. Something like 40% of American southerners had hookworm in 1910 whilst the RSC turned into getting started, and it was all but long gone through 1915 once they turned the work over to neighborhood docs to finish up.

They have been dimes, and he didn’t do it out of charity. He gave away dimes because it would be perceived as quirky and disarming via individuals who might in any other case be intimidated or famous person struck by the richest character ever. When Rockefeller wanted to perform charity he did it on a big scale. For instance:

He changed into sincerely a pretty ordinary dude. My ancestor from the 14th century had her 21st birthday at a popular karaoke bar in Cairo, and they had a big group. My superb (x100) grandmother was set to pass final, however as she was taking walks to the stage, a person in a hooded sweatshirt and hat asked if he may want to carry out. She surely hated singing, so she became glad to oblige. For the following 15 mins, Mansa Musa executed poetry slam about the the government the usage of birds as a way of controlling society. Everyone in the venue become so moved, my ancestor’s boyfriend captured a pigeon outdoor, and Mansa Musa decapitated it on stage.

I think its hilarious u youngsters talking shit approximately Mansa Musa. U wouldnt say this shit to his face, hes jacked. now not only that however he wears the most up to date clothes, eats at the chillest eating places and hangs out with the most up to date dudes. Yall are pathetic lol.

Mark hunt is a goddamb treasure

Kyle Lowry pasta

I do not especially recognize this one but it seems like Mark Hunt on Insta.

Mansa musa ain't no spot up shooter he aint gotta run to the maghreb to shoot like hes a few 3rd alternative complain this aint jeff bezos this is a fuckin god human saladin come again only this time hes no longer a fuckin pussy pull up from the fuckin sahara and fight you at the same time

He could be pretty aggressive once in a while too.

I love this reproduction pasta

”I saw Mansu Musa at a grocery store in Cairo yesterday. I instructed him how cool it changed into to satisfy him in character, however I didn’t need to be a douche and bother him and ask him for stone carvings of us or whatever. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I turned into taken aback, and all I may want to say was “Huh?” but he kept reducing me off and going “huh? Huh? Huh?” and ultimate his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and endured with my shopping, and I heard him giggle as I walked off. When I got here to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to stroll out the doorways with like fifteen baggage of grain in his hands without paying. The woman at the counter was very best approximately it and professional, and turned into like “Sir, you want to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be worn-out and not hear her, however sooner or later turned again round and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bags and began weighing it multiple times, he stopped her and instructed her to weigh them each individually “to save you any Gold infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned every bag and placed them in a cart and started out to mention the charge, he saved interrupting her by means of yawning honestly loudly.”

Idk guy there’s a recount from 1320 recounting him as not a completely fine guy:

Mansa munsa without a doubt was high-quality. I love a scarce historical figure who did fantastic things for masses of people

So what you're saying is, The Industrial Revolution and its outcomes were a catastrophe for the human race?

Some of the most vicious businessmen in records has come from that turn of the 1900s. The Industrial Revolution grew to become humans into machines.

It represented Estonia in 2011 and finished 2nd to remaining within the Grand final

Can I get an OOTL for this music for an American that doesn't watch Eurovision?

Rockefeller Street

What song?

It continually amazes me whilst a Eurovision song gains meme fame years after the contest.

1 2 7 three

Mansa was too kind for all that wealth, flick on over to Rockefeller giving humans god rattling pennies.

That chess guy: "Outstanding flow."

Mansa Musa in reality took a excursion of the "global" and while journeying gave gold to almost absolutely everyone he ought to. He actually gave away so much gold he devalued it! It turned into the "first financial crash" in global records!

Fun Fact:

But when he, the participant, gained over Mansa and took certainly one of his cities, abruptly the UN responded (“UN FUCK”) and boom, the player is at war with all of the AI opponents.

And while Mansa invaded him, the participant, the UN nonetheless didn’t care (“UN sleep”).

He’s announcing that when when he become gambling Civ, Mansa, his AI opponent, began invading independent cities, but the UN in the game didn’t care (“UN turned into sleep”).

I'm nonetheless so confused.

Its terrific how hard to parse it changed into, but then finally i observed the clue that the 'FUCK' was in italics and i became able to pick out up the sample of UN sleep UN sleep UN FUCK, and now i'm just amazed how a good deal that one unmarried missing area results the understandability of the syntax

I mainly enjoyed “UNFUCK.”

If I noticed this comment with no upvotes I’d be satisfied it’s gibberish. Yet here we are!

I do not know you fascinated or not, however one time I performed Mans conquered Some indepented metropolis and UN changed into sleep, when he declared struggle on me UN sleep when I conquered that city for me UNFUCK and I had to conflict againts USA, China and Japan

Yep! In 6 he’s a monster at getting tons of gold, with a success to his production.

What?! He is playable in civ?! I did no longer realize that .... Thank you

come be a part of us in civ_memes

We need greater civ associated memes

"wow, none people are wealthy" all people stated after he gave gold to all and sundry

Yes. The bill wurtz remark I become searching for.

And some decades later it could be called just Spain for a couple of years

China's again yay!

Woops half of of europe just died

Please continue to be Christian, we're going to take a look at in later to peer in case you're still Christian when you least anticipate it

The Christians are doing a fantastic task reconquering Iberia which will soon be called Spain and now not Spain

“Wow, that guy’s wealthy” anybody stated.

I am civgarth

Civ V forever!

Got me there

Yeah but Bezos will probably be playable in Civ 25

In being playable in a game he is immortal, no?

Reads civ meme

clicks

A Mansa Musa meme? I've by no means even heard of this guy out of doors of Civ.

Reads headline

Literally the photo OP used instead of his civ 6 individual screen.

And in civ 4

Bro.......

But Bro you're my global!

ROAD-A ROLLAHH DAAAAAA!!

5 seconds have passed...

Dubstep fart noises

TOKI YO TOMAREE

ZA WARUDO!

Or did he play the sector? 🤔

Best part is him being playable in civ 6

It’s a long way worse than even the American slavery machine. At least they could see the sun.

I’ve study historic accounts of what situations had been like for slaves in mines.

If you truely care approximately slavery, you might want to look at for income prisons or the over 50,000 intercourse slaves in America.

They are not compelled to work endlessly.

No, indentured servants regularly had better education for his or her kids than ordinary human beings. Indentured servants were not taken into consideration replaceable inside the identical manner current society perspectives it is workers.

So basically much like Amazon. You are forced to work difficult, endlessly, and you can not quit in any other case your life might be ruined. But at least you are now not getting raped or crushed.

Idk I’m no longer inclined to agree with absolutely everyone who dabbled in any shape of slavery made billions mostly off glorified maids.

No doubt there is been a few sort of revisionism of history that makes their rape of slaves not rape. But I might not stand for it.

To lower back up your point. Mansa Musa became certainly rebuked by means of his fellow Muslims for his taking of ''free women'' as concubines (as become Mali tradition, the providing of one's beautiful daughters to the King without marriage) and treating them as you'll your slave concubines. To his credit, he stopped treating them (read; free women) in this type of way, but of direction the rape of his slave concubines turned into nevertheless A-Okay.

That's simply blatant bullshit.

Unlike chattel survey, it became now not not unusual for indentured servants to be raped or overwhelmed

There are still slaves running in gold mines in Mali today. You are missing the distinction in slavery, due to the fact you're right it's miles one of a kind, but not in the way you describe. The distinction is the destruction of social identification in American slavery. You are being deliberately misleading although whilst you act like slavery wasn't awful in Mali, simply as terrible as colonial slavery, and not similar to the modern-day day.

Slavery in mines is ready 10 times worse than slavery inside the domestic, and twice as awful as slavery in the fields. Just study what came about to slaves in gold mines underneath Spanish rule.

Unlike chattel survey, it become not common for indentured servants to be raped or overwhelmed, their kids have been now not considered property, they have been cutting-edge day maids that often held contracts in which at the cease of they would then be set loose.

Indentured servitude, chattel slavery, intercourse slavery, the african for profit prisons

Every single thread about him you guys completely DISREGARD the exclusive kinds of slavery.

Come be my slave for every week and whilst you roll lower back domestic, blind and along with your legs reduce off for bringing me heat beer and then bringing me too bloodless beer... You might recognize.

It's now not, that's the trouble.

A complete on rapist?

How is that exclusive from "Philanthropist" billionaire?

Maybe a touch disingenuous, do not you assume?

"Personification of the way a groovy dude with masses of money can tremendously help people"

Slaves.

But who mined the Gold? Who minedpanned and carried the salt throughout the desert? Who carried all the wealth he took with him on his pilgrimage?

Salt was crucial, however Gold made them rich.

Just gonna replica the respond that I gave to the alternative man or woman here

I thought it was constructed on trading salt

Not to say the Malian Empires wealth turned into built at the lower back of the trans-Saharan slave change.

Lemme just, uh... wreck the whole African gold marketplace for a pair decades real quick

I best performed 6, cherished it, fight me

BABA YETU

which is why no one saw civ 4 coming

The civilization before the one in communique is always the quality.

It's the mods. Absolutely top notch fucking mods for Civ four. five and six mods are trash by comparison.

Yeah, it added me to series like Anno which might be extra about aid management and trading

Honestly colonization is without a doubt accurate and a refreshing change to the ordinary civ gameplay.

Colonization is the fine Civ 4 content!

Eg, Cid's Sushi let's you earn more meals and tradition in change for fish and rice.

They're simply religions that give you greater food, production, trade or culture based totally on how a great deal of a aid you have.

I never absolutely "were given" corporations. Mainly because I always played big maps, and rolled with State Property.

Cid's Sushi OP, plz nerf

Beyond the sword masterrace rise up

Well, Civ four is the better game.

but a few definitely outstanding short-term earnings for a handful of already obscenely wealthy shareholders, therefore visible as an absolute win

Preferred strategy: revert to autocracy with police country doctrine to save you riots (-10 happiness)

Cannot maintain Democracy whilst owning Billionaire Media Wonder

this reasons riots until you personal the Billionaire Media wonder of the world... Which unluckily comes with the downside of a gradual descent into a fascist government type

but die in 2 turns

Perk: Zero Hour Contracts - Workers who are not currently assigned to a project fee nothing to maintain.

It’s due to the fact Jeff Bezos is a playable character in Civ four

Weird that OP cites him being playable in Civ 6 but uses his Civ four avatar.